Shen? ATL-BHM
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Shen? ATL-BHM
Would someone with insight look into this possible Shen for me to determine whether I should write DL.
I was #1 or #2 on waitlist on DL 1033 ATL-BHM, 1 July, for comp ug with 2 F empty seats. At final call for all zones, I ask GA whether F has boarded full. She tells me that it has checked in full. Again, I ask if it has boarded full. She replies that there will no possibility of an upgrade so I board and take my coach seat. Just before the door closes, 2 pilots swoop onto the flight and take the two remaining F seats, 2A and 2B. These pilots did not work the return flight to ATL as the plane terminated and overnighted in BHM. For me, this no big deal as the flight is exceptionally short but I do want to keep informing DL when these Shen incidents occur.
I was #1 or #2 on waitlist on DL 1033 ATL-BHM, 1 July, for comp ug with 2 F empty seats. At final call for all zones, I ask GA whether F has boarded full. She tells me that it has checked in full. Again, I ask if it has boarded full. She replies that there will no possibility of an upgrade so I board and take my coach seat. Just before the door closes, 2 pilots swoop onto the flight and take the two remaining F seats, 2A and 2B. These pilots did not work the return flight to ATL as the plane terminated and overnighted in BHM. For me, this no big deal as the flight is exceptionally short but I do want to keep informing DL when these Shen incidents occur.
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It is possible that the pilots were deadheading (which is different from non-rev personal travel - nobody have a kiniption) and were going to work the first flight in the morning. Some CBA's do specify 1st class for deadheading crew members if available (I have no knowledge of the Delta pilot contract, but it is a possibilty).
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It is possible that the pilots were deadheading (which is different from non-rev personal travel - nobody have a kiniption) and were going to work the first flight in the morning. Some CBA's do specify 1st class for deadheading crew members if available (I have no knowledge of the Delta pilot contract, but it is a possibilty).
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It is possible that the pilots were deadheading (which is different from non-rev personal travel - nobody have a kiniption) and were going to work the first flight in the morning. Some CBA's do specify 1st class for deadheading crew members if available (I have no knowledge of the Delta pilot contract, but it is a possibilty).
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+1. The flight is blocked at about an hour with a gear up to landing at about 20-25 min. The flt clears the 10k level, never really reaches a cruising altitude, and then the engines quickly rev back and the descent starts.The flt does one of these... ^
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Yes, true, but it is my observation when pilots/FA have confirmed seats when deadheading to a destination for work, they typically wait until all pax have deplaned before deplaning themselves. In this case, the pilots deplaned with the F passengers. The fact that these particular pilots deplaned quickly also raised my suspicions.
My flight arrived late enough into BHM that there were no other return flights to ATL that evening so these pilots would not be flying that plane, or a different DL flight, back to ATL that night, so there was no rush to their "assignment" and could have waited for the pax to deplane.
It is also my understanding that when deadheading home after completing their flights, crew members should not be upgraded to F over Medallion members. Medallion members should be upgraded first, then if any F seats remain the crew members may request them.
On the other hand, I have also sat next to and talked with crew members in confirmed F who were deadheading to a work assignment. This benefit, as you suggested, may be part of a contract between DL and its pilots.
My flight arrived late enough into BHM that there were no other return flights to ATL that evening so these pilots would not be flying that plane, or a different DL flight, back to ATL that night, so there was no rush to their "assignment" and could have waited for the pax to deplane.
It is also my understanding that when deadheading home after completing their flights, crew members should not be upgraded to F over Medallion members. Medallion members should be upgraded first, then if any F seats remain the crew members may request them.
On the other hand, I have also sat next to and talked with crew members in confirmed F who were deadheading to a work assignment. This benefit, as you suggested, may be part of a contract between DL and its pilots.