FC sense of entitlement
Nov 1, 2010, 11:04 am
#16
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Now you have done it! Prompted another round of responses from the self-absorbed "that rule doesn't apply to me because I am smarter than the person who made up the rule, and it's not a safety issue anyway" crowd. 
On my last trip, after the "turn off anything with a switch" message had been repeated several times, and after watching the fellow in the window seat pull his Blackberry out of his pocket and fiddle with it several times during the taxi out:
Me: "I guess the no electronics rule doesn't apply to you."
Mr. Self-absorbed: <condescending snort, then holds B'berry up so I can see it as he turns it off> "Is that OK now?"
Me: "Yes... it shows that you can follow instructions."
Mr. Self-absorbed: "Did I do something to you?"
Me: "Yes. You jeopardized my safety for your own self-convenience."
Mr. Self-absorbed: no response... maybe he was brighter than he first appeared to be.
OK... you excessively entitled folks can flame away now...
On my last trip, after the "turn off anything with a switch" message had been repeated several times, and after watching the fellow in the window seat pull his Blackberry out of his pocket and fiddle with it several times during the taxi out:
Me: "I guess the no electronics rule doesn't apply to you."
Mr. Self-absorbed: <condescending snort, then holds B'berry up so I can see it as he turns it off> "Is that OK now?"
Me: "Yes... it shows that you can follow instructions."
Mr. Self-absorbed: "Did I do something to you?"
Me: "Yes. You jeopardized my safety for your own self-convenience."
Mr. Self-absorbed: no response... maybe he was brighter than he first appeared to be.
OK... you excessively entitled folks can flame away now...
o.k., I assume his thought was that only engineers follow rules, or am I missing something?
Nov 1, 2010, 11:15 am
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Mr 7D's brother was on DL 2455 last night in 3E. While boarding he blocked the starboard aisle on the 763 for a good 4 or 5 minutes, digging around in his oversized rollaboard for his earbuds. After finally plopping down he immediately pulls out a styrofoam container of the smelliest chinese food I've encountered in some time. Wolfed that down while flicking grains of rice on the floor (and passing pax boarding the plane). Spent most of the flight clearing his sinuses into cocktail napkins and trying to hand them to the FAs, who didn't want them. It would have been funny if I hadn't been in 3D...
Edited to add: I know his behavior was not necessarily "entitled". More "boorish". Since I can be "boorish" myself on occasion, I felt "entitled" to post about it.
Edited to add: I know his behavior was not necessarily "entitled". More "boorish". Since I can be "boorish" myself on occasion, I felt "entitled" to post about it.
Last edited by dd992emo; Nov 1, 2010 at 11:29 am
Nov 1, 2010, 11:25 am
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I am tired of hearing, "Me" and "MR". 
When is the next show, oops I mean flight? I want to be there to see it. It better be you and 'her'.
Pre-flight rumble!! (flashing lights and heavy beat music) In matter fact I want to see a 'her' on 'her' show with their crackberry or iphone talking about their shoes or great sales or even better hear the drama.
If they are texting, I expect full cliff notes of the chat, so I can read it. As I am eating my DL snacks, sitting in my blue leather seat with a broken table and pen marks along the backside of the seat in front me.
When is the next show, oops I mean flight? I want to be there to see it. It better be you and 'her'.
Pre-flight rumble!! (flashing lights and heavy beat music) In matter fact I want to see a 'her' on 'her' show with their crackberry or iphone talking about their shoes or great sales or even better hear the drama.
If they are texting, I expect full cliff notes of the chat, so I can read it. As I am eating my DL snacks, sitting in my blue leather seat with a broken table and pen marks along the backside of the seat in front me.
Last edited by BondAir007; Nov 1, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Nov 1, 2010, 11:30 am
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Nov 1, 2010, 11:47 am
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Nov 1, 2010, 11:50 am
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Boorish behavior is not limited to any particular class of travel, although IME it's MORE likely to be seen in F. On two flights yesterday I had to fight to keep my seatmate from encroaching into my space. I'm not talking about hogging the armrest. That was a lost cause. I'm talking about elbows extending over the armrest (this is in mainline F), feet spread into my space, and holding a laptop up so it's literally a couple of inches from my face. A few well placed elbows and comments on my part helped but it was an ongoing battle.
in the back the "elite" are mixed in with everyone else so it's not as "concentrated" that you are sitting with the "special". Unless you get "lucky" enough to Mr "I was deined an upgrade and am going to take it out one EVERYONE on the plane" (picture your two year old being told "no" with the ability to curse like a sailor!)
I have quit using my Platinum luggage tag and won't put on the Diamond when it arrives. I know the FA KNOWS but I don't want random employees and passengers to think I am one of "them"
I have started counting carryons and saying "Gee I didn't know you had an 'extra' bag exemption" (Yes ladies, a purse is NOT a free third bag!)
Nov 1, 2010, 11:57 am
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Yes, I'm talking to many of you reading this. A large percentage of this board is made up of frequent and elite members of various airline programs, so we all fly enough to know that the rules are.
DL 1915 last night (ATL-PHX), Mister 7D end-runs the gate lice to plant himself on the edge of the SP carpet with his 3 carryons. Surely the GA and/or FA will say something. Nope. To make things worse, he puts all three up in the overhead bin so that his feet have plenty of unimpeded space under the seat in front of him.
And what part of "electronic devices should be turned off" is the most confusing? It's not a request for only non-FC passengers and MMers aren't exempt. Turn off your damn crackberry, and don't think you're being cute when you secretly turn it back on.
Finally, the preflight drink is not a God-given right. If you need two vodka frescas that badly before takeoff, perhaps you should have booked 2B instead of 7B, or followed Mister 7D when he pushed ahead of everyone else.
I can understand when the Kettles back in coach dont get with the programs, but if you're sitting up in FC you've flown enough to know better.
DL 1915 last night (ATL-PHX), Mister 7D end-runs the gate lice to plant himself on the edge of the SP carpet with his 3 carryons. Surely the GA and/or FA will say something. Nope. To make things worse, he puts all three up in the overhead bin so that his feet have plenty of unimpeded space under the seat in front of him.
And what part of "electronic devices should be turned off" is the most confusing? It's not a request for only non-FC passengers and MMers aren't exempt. Turn off your damn crackberry, and don't think you're being cute when you secretly turn it back on.
Finally, the preflight drink is not a God-given right. If you need two vodka frescas that badly before takeoff, perhaps you should have booked 2B instead of 7B, or followed Mister 7D when he pushed ahead of everyone else.
I can understand when the Kettles back in coach dont get with the programs, but if you're sitting up in FC you've flown enough to know better.
What am I missing?
Nov 1, 2010, 11:58 am
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I am tired of hearing, "Me" and "MR".
When is the next show, oops I mean flight? I want to be there to see it. It better be you and 'her'.
Pre-flight rumble!! (flashing lights and heavy beat music) In matter fact I want to see a 'her' on 'her' show with their crackberry or iphone talking about their shoes or great sales or even better hear the drama.
If they are texting, I expect full cliff notes of the chat, so I can read it as I am eating my DL snacks, seating in my blue leather seat with broken table and pen marks along the backside of the seat in front me.
When is the next show, oops I mean flight? I want to be there to see it. It better be you and 'her'.
Pre-flight rumble!! (flashing lights and heavy beat music) In matter fact I want to see a 'her' on 'her' show with their crackberry or iphone talking about their shoes or great sales or even better hear the drama.
If they are texting, I expect full cliff notes of the chat, so I can read it as I am eating my DL snacks, seating in my blue leather seat with broken table and pen marks along the backside of the seat in front me.
Nov 1, 2010, 12:00 pm
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It's a drink I order sometimes and make at home, actually thanks to Delta A while back (maybe like four or five years ago) they had a drink in the magazine back whent they were doing the special shaker drinks called something like a citrus splash, that was Fresca and Mango vodka. I make that at home when I have fresca (I always have mango vodka), but unfortunately Delta only had the mango vodka for that short period, regular vodka works but mango flavored is a lot better.
A while back (maybe like four or five years ago) they had a drink in the magazine back whent they were doing the special shaker drinks called something like a citrus splash, that was Fresca and Mango vodka. I make that at home when I have fresca (I always have mango vodka), but unfortunately Delta only had the mango vodka for that short period, regular vodka works but mango flavored is a lot better.
Nov 1, 2010, 12:04 pm
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Nov 1, 2010, 12:04 pm
#28
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In coach, rule "violations" may well be due to ignorance but in FC it is more likely indifference (I don't really care) or entitlement (it doesn't apply to ME).
But what is most remarkable is absent a rule, civility is marginally observed by many. And, moreover, the indignation of some who behave boorishly when they believe others are doing so. The "excuse me, but would you mind..." is civil, whereas the "I guess the no electronics rule doesn't apply to you" might be boorish?
Nov 1, 2010, 12:09 pm
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Nov 1, 2010, 12:11 pm
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