Pre Flight Beverage Service, fading fast
#1081
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Does anyone know why on a D1 flight, PDB is limited to OJ and champagne, but on a regular flight in F, all drinks are available? As D1 is the highest class of service wouldn't they offer the greatest selection?
#1082
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Generally it's because of duty and DL has to pay whatever they open up on the ground. FC on non-domestic flights (to Canada, Mexico, etc) are the same way typically.
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#1085
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Happy to say that on this afternoon's ANC-SEA flight PDB service was efficient, open bar, and the FA's seemed to conduct the service row by row with minimal disruption to the boarding process. As I was enjoying my PDB of Woodford an old colleague passed by on his back to Y. Nice to briefly catch up!
#1086
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I'm not going to report it to Delta as it was a good crew, but I was a bit taken aback when they refused my request and insisted on champagne or OJ only as a PDB....
#1087
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With the current boarding structure of sending Basic Economy to their middle seats in the back of the plane last, if there is a line anywhere in the cabin, an FA stopping boarding even for a minute to serve PDB's will not slow down the line and affect the time that the last carry-on is stowed.
If DL boarded window seats first or from back to front (which will never happen), I could see how PDB interrupting a line might slow down the departure by a minute or two.
Perhaps I could see DL curtailing PDB's when flying to a hub under an already significant delay, but flying from a hub to an outstation... they can make up any theoretical PDB 1-2 minute delay on the ground when they turn around.
My last delayed flight ATL-SFO was 40 minutes late to depart then fly into massive headwinds, so they did announce at the gate that PDB would not served since they could not "make up time in the air". Guy next to me was connecting to AKL on ANZ on 006 stock and still missed his connection.
If DL boarded window seats first or from back to front (which will never happen), I could see how PDB interrupting a line might slow down the departure by a minute or two.
Perhaps I could see DL curtailing PDB's when flying to a hub under an already significant delay, but flying from a hub to an outstation... they can make up any theoretical PDB 1-2 minute delay on the ground when they turn around.
My last delayed flight ATL-SFO was 40 minutes late to depart then fly into massive headwinds, so they did announce at the gate that PDB would not served since they could not "make up time in the air". Guy next to me was connecting to AKL on ANZ on 006 stock and still missed his connection.
#1088
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My JFK/DTW flight sunday on a small CRJ900 they managed to get a PDB done during boarding on a flight delayed over 2 hours (which I was thankful seeing we are on the ground for an hour in a long departure line).
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I was on a delayed flight by 20 minutes or so last week, and they skipped the PDB (gate agents even made an announcement to all passengers that they were skipping pre departure service for F to expedite boarding....)
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This was so bizarre I didn't know what to make of it.
Some other pax behind us had been served, but I hadn't, and since I was in the window, I hit the call button.
FA walked over, turned it off, and walked away. Thinking it was a mistake, I hit it again. He walked by, turned it off without even making eye contact, and disappeared into the galley until pushback.
No PDB.
Some other pax behind us had been served, but I hadn't, and since I was in the window, I hit the call button.
FA walked over, turned it off, and walked away. Thinking it was a mistake, I hit it again. He walked by, turned it off without even making eye contact, and disappeared into the galley until pushback.
No PDB.
#1091
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This was so bizarre I didn't know what to make of it.
Some other pax behind us had been served, but I hadn't, and since I was in the window, I hit the call button.
FA walked over, turned it off, and walked away. Thinking it was a mistake, I hit it again. He walked by, turned it off without even making eye contact, and disappeared into the galley until pushback.
No PDB.
Some other pax behind us had been served, but I hadn't, and since I was in the window, I hit the call button.
FA walked over, turned it off, and walked away. Thinking it was a mistake, I hit it again. He walked by, turned it off without even making eye contact, and disappeared into the galley until pushback.
No PDB.
My recent success has been 100% since October last year, but that's only a sample size of 7 legs.
#1092
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When I used my GUCs on ATL-MUC and return in mid-January 2019, the FAs were offering Heineken as a PDB along with sparkling wine, OJ and mimosas.
#1093
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PDB RIP ?
4 trips in the last week. No PDB or even a mention there-of. Just lazy crew? Or is this a thing of the past?
In the past they at least apologized with "sorry we were catered late" or "we were in a hurry" etc but now nothing.
To me its not a big deal, but I just feel like the standard level of service is degrading (see my other post about the missing Snack basket in C+)
/end rant
In the past they at least apologized with "sorry we were catered late" or "we were in a hurry" etc but now nothing.
To me its not a big deal, but I just feel like the standard level of service is degrading (see my other post about the missing Snack basket in C+)
/end rant