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dollerman73 Dec 13, 2009 7:49 am

First Class Breakfast Options
 
I flew First SLC-MEM and return on CRJ-900 and breakfast both times was cold cereal, sugar free yogurt, soggy fruit and a stale bagel. My questions are, what happened to the hot breakfast option? Is this just what's on offer on the smaller CRJ or this fleet wide? And finally... Cheerios??? What the heck???:td:

secretsea18 Dec 13, 2009 8:10 am

Unfortunately, DL has determined that it's FC flyers only wanted hot meals on flights of 1500+ miles. :mad::mad:
At least that was how it was explained to us former NW flyers who got used to that great omelet for our breakfasts on any flight long enough to get a meal (even flights of ~500 miles in some cases).

For all flights under 1500 miles offering breakfast meals, you will only be offered cold cereal, a hard bagel (often inedible), a yoghurt, and a fruit or fruit cup. It doesn't matter which aircraft you are on.

mikelevitt Dec 13, 2009 8:14 am

best in class

SJC ORD LDR Dec 13, 2009 8:36 am

IIRC, the CR9's do not have an oven, so that would make a hot breakfast is impossible. I ususally get the cereal option anyway when I'm up front over eggs anyway since I don't like eggs.

motytrah Dec 13, 2009 9:35 am


Originally Posted by secretsea18 (Post 12976865)
Unfortunately, DL has determined that it's FC flyers only wanted hot meals on flights of 1500+ miles. :mad::mad:

To put a little context on this, if you were a NW customer you had an exception of hot meals on all but the shortest flights. Post merger there are very few classic NW routes that qualify for hot meals in the lower 48.

dollerman73 Dec 13, 2009 10:38 am


Originally Posted by mikelevitt (Post 12976884)
best in class

Well said Mike. This is all becoming a little too much...:mad:

Stripe Dec 13, 2009 10:45 am


Originally Posted by SJC ORD LDR (Post 12976954)
IIRC, the CR9's do not have an oven, so that would make a hot breakfast is impossible.

All of NW's CR9s and E175s were delivered with ovens and before things were Deltafied all meals had at least one hot option. DL had RJs with FC but no ovens, so they brought the entire fleet up to the "best in class" standard by removing the ovens they had and making all meals cold.

ControlTower Dec 13, 2009 3:16 pm

ATL-JFK on MD80 served same meal option.
still, better than nothing

avidflyer Dec 13, 2009 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by Stripe (Post 12977540)
All of NW's CR9s and E175s were delivered with ovens and before things were Deltafied all meals had at least one hot option. DL had RJs with FC but no ovens, so they brought the entire fleet up to the "best in class" standard by removing the ovens they had and making all meals cold.

That is absolutely correct. I have had full, hot, dinner meal service on both, usually BOS-MSP but they certainly did have ovens when delivered.

dollerman73 Dec 13, 2009 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by jameskwon (Post 12978920)
ATL-JFK on MD80 served same meal option.
still, better than nothing

I disagree, it's this kind of attitude that leaves all of us eating cold Cheerios! This is really not good enough, and I would rather really have nothing! DL should be embarrassed serving this.:td::td::td:

StayingHomeIsBetter Dec 13, 2009 8:18 pm

Are "bagels" supposed to clink?
 
I had the cold breakfast on my flight from PHL to MSP this morning.

The bagel was the absolute worst example of a stale, simulated, bagel-like object that I have ever had.

The bottom half had the consistency of a 3/8 inch thick sheet of gypsum wallboard. I'm talking about tooth-breaking potential here.

I dropped it back on the bread place and, in all honesty, it went "clink"... loud enough to catch the attention of the fellow next to me in the window seat, who observed "Yep... that's stale."

"Best in class"... if you need something to repair a hole in your wall.

Watchful Dec 13, 2009 8:46 pm

I'd give back my hot towel and Cheerios for a wet wipe and omelet!

FLLDL Dec 13, 2009 8:51 pm

The CR9 breakfast is terrible.

StayingHomeIsBetter Dec 13, 2009 8:53 pm


Originally Posted by Watchful (Post 12980381)
I'd give back my hot towel and Cheerios for a wet wipe and omelet!

You got a hot towel?!?!?

N830MH Dec 13, 2009 8:54 pm


Originally Posted by SJC ORD LDR (Post 12976954)
IIRC, the CR9's do not have an oven, so that would make a hot breakfast is impossible. I ususally get the cereal option anyway when I'm up front over eggs anyway since I don't like eggs.

No, all CRJ does not have ovens at all. Instead, only you can eat cold breakfast with cereal or any kind other meals. I will be flying out from PHX-ATL-ZRH next week and I know it will have hot meals to eat the breakfast time in the morning flight out of PHX-ATL. I know it will have omelet with cheese on it, am I correct? What kind of hot breakfast is that where I am flying out of PHX-ATL?

N830MH Dec 13, 2009 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 12980429)
You got a hot towel?!?!?

Yes, FA will give you hot towel all F class passengers only.

Watchful Dec 14, 2009 6:37 am


Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter (Post 12980429)
You got a hot towel?!?!?

"Hot towels" seem to be the norm for most First Class meal service now - something we didn't have on Northwest - but it does seem odd to receive a hot towel before my bowl of Cheerios. :eek:

jeff30189 Dec 14, 2009 6:55 am

C'mon now...
 
Isnt this an example of taking whining to a new level?

Delta has alot of challenges, but compared to the SWU issue the fact that you do not have a hot breakfast option on a regional jet seems trivial at best!

Do you really seek out the FC upgrade for the airline food, hot or cold? C'mon.

StayingHomeIsBetter Dec 14, 2009 7:59 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 12980456)
Yes, FA will give you hot towel all F class passengers only.


Originally Posted by Watchful (Post 12981990)
"Hot towels" seem to be the norm for most First Class meal service now - something we didn't have on Northwest - but it does seem odd to receive a hot towel before my bowl of Cheerios. :eek:

I was being facetious.

I have received the hot towels before... about 1 time out of 10 when there is a meal service.

Was hoping to start a "my troubles are worse than yours" joke.

"I was given a hot towel."
"You got a hot towel? We were given towels but they were cold and only slightly damp."
"You think that is bad? We were only given pre-moistened wipes."
"You think that is bad? We were given a pre-moistened wipe... but the entire FC cabin had to share the same one."

:D

StayingHomeIsBetter Dec 14, 2009 8:01 am


Originally Posted by jeff30189 (Post 12982041)
Isnt this an example of taking whining to a new level?

Delta has alot of challenges, but compared to the SWU issue the fact that you do not have a hot breakfast option on a regional jet seems trivial at best!

Do you really seek out the FC upgrade for the airline food, hot or cold? C'mon.

Translation: "It's not MY issue, therefore it is not important."

secretsea18 Dec 14, 2009 8:14 am


Originally Posted by jeff30189 (Post 12982041)
Isnt this an example of taking whining to a new level?

Delta has alot of challenges, but compared to the SWU issue the fact that you do not have a hot breakfast option on a regional jet seems trivial at best!

Do you really seek out the FC upgrade for the airline food, hot or cold? C'mon.

You are correct about the SWU being more important, however....

The breakfast is cold on just about any jet if <1500 miles, not just CRJ900 and EMB planes. AND this is something that has had a negative change for many travelers, especially former NW flyers, who almost always were offered a hot breakfast on most morning flights.

Another "Best in Class" improvement, in the name of aligning service, all because many DL planes did not have ovens.

Kwaj boy Dec 14, 2009 10:10 am


Originally Posted by jeff30189 (Post 12982041)
Isnt this an example of taking whining to a new level?

Delta has alot of challenges, but compared to the SWU issue the fact that you do not have a hot breakfast option on a regional jet seems trivial at best!

Do you really seek out the FC upgrade for the airline food, hot or cold? C'mon.

AMEN!

dollerman73 Dec 14, 2009 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by secretsea18 (Post 12982504)
The breakfast is cold on just about any jet if <1500 miles, not just CRJ900 and EMB planes. AND this is something that has had a negative change for many travelers, especially former NW flyers, who almost always were offered a hot breakfast on most morning flights.

Another "Best in Class" improvement, in the name of aligning service, all because many DL planes did not have ovens.

Well said! Don't pee on my back and tell me it's raining...:mad: Also just as a point of clarification, there was no hot towel on the CRJ (not that I care), but was on the 757. I guess the scolding towel service is only available on the big planes.

tvnwz Dec 14, 2009 4:45 pm


Originally Posted by jeff30189 (Post 12982041)
Isnt this an example of taking whining to a new level?

Delta has alot of challenges, but compared to the SWU issue the fact that you do not have a hot breakfast option on a regional jet seems trivial at best!

Do you really seek out the FC upgrade for the airline food, hot or cold? C'mon.

Maybe for you. I could care less about the SWU whinning. I don't need, or use, them. I miss the omlet. A hot meal really helps me and the omlet was pretty good.

mnredfox Dec 14, 2009 4:57 pm

All food options downgraded as part of best in class enhancements. You've been Dultified.

UA vs NW Dec 14, 2009 5:54 pm

Some other observations about DL/NW meal service
 
Some other observations about meal service on DL/NW during the past few months

This past weekend I flew a NW CRJ-900 from DFW to MSP (852 miles) in the morning, which is less than 900 miles; surprisingly, F cabin got breakfast service with a warm bagel. Is this route an exception in terms of meal service (like ATL-JFK/LGA)? Also the milk was from Texas, which indicated the meal was probably loaded in DFW.

In November when flying ATL-BOS (947 miles)leaving at 9:50AM, a single choice of lunch was served in F, which surprised a lot of people including the FA herself.

In September when flying HLN-MSP (913miles) leaving at 8:30AM, the breakfast served in F included cereal with milk, a banana and a prepacked muffin (the one they serve in coach class during pre-arrival meal service on USA-AMS flights). The milk was from the state of Washington, which indicates it was probably loaded in HLN.

Back in June when flying MSP-ABQ (981 miles) during lunch time, we actually got a choice of salad or hot sandwich, which confused the FA as well as us.

In August 2008 when I flew NW on DEN-MSP (680 miles) in the morning, they actually served an express version of breakfast in F (cereal with milk and a banana). I guess this is due to competition on that route. Do they still do that?

Finally, I am wondering whether NW will make exceptions to MSP-SEA route in terms of full meal service, as this is one of their most important domestic routes. Does anyone have any experience for dinner service?

DTWflyer Dec 14, 2009 7:11 pm

FC upgrades are so pointless now, I actually decline them on OLCI when I probably have a good chance of getting BF upgrade if I have Row 5 on the Airbus or the exit row on the DC-9 in the mornings. Give me 5A/5F and I'll be out like a rock with more legroom than the folks in F.

In the p.m., the only advantage of F is the free drinks. Depending on how the week is going, I may need them.

Watchful Dec 15, 2009 5:26 am

A bit off topic - but let me say that if you wind up taking a flight that is incorrectly catered, it is in your best interest (if you are a miles collector) to send a nicely worded email, letting them know of the problem.

Crazyhotelguy Dec 15, 2009 5:59 am

I try to avoid being one of the NW whiners, but in this case, I will say that NW did have a better meal product in FC than DL. The IFE On DL is much appreciated, but would nicely complemented with NW's meal service. Guess you can't have your cake and eat it too on DL.

(That would mean that they actually took the best from both and combined them)

uavking Dec 15, 2009 7:06 am


Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy (Post 12989272)
I try to avoid being one of the NW whiners, but in this case, I will say that NW did have a better meal product in FC than DL. The IFE On DL is much appreciated, but would nicely complemented with NW's meal service. Guess you can't have your cake and eat it too on DL.

(That would mean that they actually took the best from both and combined them)

True that; a bagel and Cheerios does not equal an omlette and sausage. Oh, and while I'm at it, can we get something besides the turkey sandwich and Asian salad??

DAYflier Dec 15, 2009 8:10 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 12980437)
What kind of hot breakfast is that where I am flying out of PHX-ATL?

The usual...My experience on that route, admittedly limited, is that the first class cabin is offered a choice of omelet & breakfast potatoes or muesli. All breakfasts served w/ astonishingly tasteless melon, yogurt, etc.

Kwaj boy Dec 15, 2009 8:12 am


Originally Posted by DTWflyer (Post 12986865)
FC upgrades are so pointless now, I actually decline them on OLCI when I probably have a good chance of getting BF upgrade if I have Row 5 on the Airbus or the exit row on the DC-9 in the mornings. Give me 5A/5F and I'll be out like a rock with more legroom than the folks in F.

In the p.m., the only advantage of F is the free drinks. Depending on how the week is going, I may need them.

WOW. Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite their face...turning down a first class upgrade for...what? Maybe a couple more inches of legroom? Whatever. I'll take the FC seat every time.

DAYflier Dec 15, 2009 8:18 am


Originally Posted by Kwaj boy (Post 12989967)
WOW. Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite their face...turning down a first class upgrade for...what? Maybe a couple more inches of legroom? Whatever. I'll take the FC seat every time.

Actually, you know, if cocktails and airline food hold no appeal for you and you have a narrow enough tuchus, 5C and 5D on the A320/19 are hard to beat in terms of leg comfort. I'd still take FC too, but when I'm flying A320 and my upgrade clears and Ms. DAYflier's didn't (until recently a SE, now GM), I'm quite happy to take 5C off her hands.

Kinsey Dec 15, 2009 10:47 am


Originally Posted by UA vs NW (Post 12986415)

In September when flying HLN-MSP (913miles) leaving at 8:30AM, the breakfast served in F included cereal with milk, a banana and a prepacked muffin (the one they serve in coach class during pre-arrival meal service on USA-AMS flights). The milk was from the state of Washington, which indicates it was probably loaded in HLN.

I was going to correct you and say HNL-MSP is not 913 but 3,967 miles, when I realized you're talking about HLN (Helena) not HNL (Honolulu). That's a big mix-up! I never realized that was Helena's abbreviation (even though I've flown into GTF multiple times) - neat :-) I'm surprised you got a breakfast on HLN-MSP though!

motytrah Dec 15, 2009 10:55 am

I was always surprised that the NW Saabs not only had restrooms, but they could fit a bev cart on the plane as well.

avflyer Dec 15, 2009 11:08 am

I too prefer a hot breakfast but as for small jets, am simply thrilled that they now have a FC cabin - something we seem to be taking for granted already. CRJ can either suck or be comfortable. Getting a meal is nice too.

Crazyhotelguy Dec 15, 2009 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by avflyer (Post 12991232)
I too prefer a hot breakfast but as for small jets, am simply thrilled that they now have a FC cabin - something we seem to be taking for granted already. CRJ can either suck or be comfortable. Getting a meal is nice too.

True, US and CO do not have FC on their regional jets.

N830MH Dec 15, 2009 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyhotelguy (Post 12994246)
True, US and CO do not have FC on their regional jets.

No, its does not have one all CRJ/ERJ aircraft. Oh, only Skywest/Comair/ASA/Mesa is mostly have some F class cabin. Only this way where DL has already in the F class cabin some regional fleet is on CRJ-900.


Originally Posted by DAYflier (Post 12989956)
The usual...My experience on that route, admittedly limited, is that the first class cabin is offered a choice of omelet & breakfast potatoes or muesli. All breakfasts served w/ astonishingly tasteless melon, yogurt, etc.

Thanks! I will eat it the breakfast time in the morning. :)

bkmn Dec 15, 2009 7:57 pm

I guess the way Delta wants you to think is, stay at a Hampton Inn, grab points and miles, grab a packet or two of instant oatmeal and ask for a cup (or two) of hot water. Mix your oatmeal and you have a hot breakfast! Voila!!!

dollerman73 Oct 1, 2010 1:45 pm

SLC-DTW today on 737 with only cold cereal for almost 4 hour flight. I went SEA-SNA on Alaska last week that offered an omelet?!?! Let's get it together DL!!! Also, no snack basket the ENTIRE flight, what is up with that???:td:


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