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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by WBurcham
I'd put $$ down that they found him through the "leak".....
IIRC, he has a family member that works for DL.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 4:09 pm
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I bet that family member no longer does after this.

BTW what we may consider harmless info may be worth gold to the competition.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 4:49 pm
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I bet it was the CZ MD-90 post that broke the camel's back.

DL has not publicly made any announcement regarding the deal for the additional MD-90's. At the last quarterly earnings call they mentioned the 3 coming from the Greek airline but not these Chinese aircraft.

That is information that investors would be all over and make a big stink about, such as purchasing capacity, and could have implications on other deals.

That was definetely insider information that has NOT be publicly announced and probably was set the DL legal department into action.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by doglover
Why would there have to be a leak? All you need is a zealous group of plane watchers with cameras.
Have you seen the information he had on that site? It certainly isn't info you can glean by taxiing by TOC on the way to the runway.

Not only did he have info on which plane is in which bay and FOR WHAT, but he also had projected dates when the work would be done. He knew which specific ship numbers were as far away as HKG for maintenance. No way a random enthusiast could come across that level of detail without someone on the inside.

I enjoyed reading this information, and I'm 100% for a free and fair press. I always prefer more information being released than less. But the fact is much of this information (especially the MD90 information) is proprietary and confidential. You can't fault DL for clamping down.

I'm just surprised it took them this long.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by DTWflyer
I bet it was the CZ MD-90 post that broke the camel's back.

DL has not publicly made any announcement regarding the deal for the additional MD-90's. At the last quarterly earnings call they mentioned the 3 coming from the Greek airline but not these Chinese aircraft.

That is information that investors would be all over and make a big stink about, such as purchasing capacity, and could have implications on other deals.

That was definetely insider information that has NOT be publicly announced and probably was set the DL legal department into action.
It's all over a popular forum for DL pilots...
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by jrsweet
This is bullsh**. Why on earth would Delta want to attack the website of one of their greatest enthusiasts?!

Sad. Very sad.
Are you even surprised? It's another attempt of Delta to drive every customer away. If there is something I hate about this airline it's their management
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by jrsweet
This is bullsh**. Why on earth would Delta want to attack the website of one of their greatest enthusiasts?!

Sad. Very sad.
A lot of his information comes from internal Delta sources which is clearly marked Proprietary/Confidential.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 5:59 pm
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Originally Posted by mike101
Are you even surprised? It's another attempt of Delta to drive every customer away. If there is something I hate about this airline it's their management
and which major U.S. airline do u like the management?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by zman
and which major U.S. airline do u like the management?
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It is like voting for president of the U.S.
I was satisfied with NWA's management and I can say the same for AA.. for some reason I am just so infuriated with the way Delta is screwing up the merger. I think they have made everything more expensive since the merger for practically the same product, if not worse (such as the new SkyClub)
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by n7371f
It's all over a popular forum for DL pilots...
+1 the CZ Mad Dog news was quite old when he posted.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by motytrah
+1 the CZ Mad Dog news was quite old when he posted.
It was rumored for a long time, but never set in stone that a deal was done. He even had a post that said along the lines "I've gotten word that the deal is done and DL is acquiring 9 more MD-90s."

And as harmless as it is knowing which NW planes are getting repainted, it still is not something that could easily be known. Someone was giving him information..he even knew when planes would be going in the hangar in advanced.

He also knew what planes were in storage like DC-9-30s and if they were sold ( and those are VERY hard to keep track of)
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 9:27 am
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I've been keeping track of the Northwest repaints and have even supplied Widgetheads with some of the information. All of my information comes from public sources, as I have no connections with Delta or anyone on the inside at Delta. Here's the process for anyone interested.

1. Watch FlightAware for NW repositioning flights to GLH or VCV.
2. Check ACARS reporting sites (acardsd.org or libhomeradar.org) for registration numbers.
a. If the repositioning flight is listed in ACARS, it's easy to know which plane is being repainted.
b. If the flight isn't listed, wait 3 days or so and check which aircraft has been inactive on ACARS since the date of the repositioning flight. After the suspected aircraft repositions back into service, verify it is back on regular flights using ACARS.

The system isn't 100% accurate, but I've only run across 3 or 4 aircraft that had been incorrectly identified over the history of the repaint program.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 8:30 pm
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Hey guys, Justin here...

I just wanted to inform you that I'm still waiting to hear back from the lawyers regarding if we can work out a deal to keep the site up under a terms of agreement.

While I can't comment too much about what you've all been talking about, I will say that almost all of my info is readily available online on other websites. Also, the MD-90 info was posted before I posted it on Widgetheads.net. I had the list a while ago, but kept it secret, as instructed to do so by my source(s).

Please keep an eye on the Anet post, as that is where I will post the updates.

Take care,
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 4:50 pm
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Site back up!

Looks like the site is back up!

Congrats, Justin...Hope it stays up for good this time around!
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by N515CR
Looks like the site is back up!

Congrats, Justin...Hope it stays up for good this time around!

Yes, it is. The Fleet Viewer is up, which is ^^^!

There's nothing on the Mod List. While it was a great tool, this feature was probably more responsible for the Almighty Hammer of Litigiousness than any other.
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