Dispute over the Falklands and repercussions
Dec 16, 2012, 5:14 am
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Dec 16, 2012, 4:16 pm
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http://en.mercopress.com/2012/12/12/...s-omit-ushuaia
suddenly even small ships dont seem appealing
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Dec 22, 2012, 3:05 am
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Falklands/Malvinas
Too bad about Ushuaia. I have not been able to understand what the crazy nationalism in Argentina is all about. I love Argentina and visit as often as I can but the vast majority of its citizens are completely brainwashed and incapable of even entertaining that there may be other opinions.
I understand Argentina's claims to the islands, however I do not agree with them any more than if Mexico still claimed California.
Moreover, I believe that self-determination is the key and in the Falkland's case, the citizens there have made it clear to remain a UK protectorate.
I understand Argentina's claims to the islands, however I do not agree with them any more than if Mexico still claimed California.
Moreover, I believe that self-determination is the key and in the Falkland's case, the citizens there have made it clear to remain a UK protectorate.
Dec 26, 2012, 11:01 pm
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Much of the folderol is actually political - President CFKs unpopularity ratings are going to break the sound barrier soon, so the nationalist schtick is used to divert peoples' attention from the many problems Argentina is experiencing due to Mrs. Cristina Fernández de Kirchner 's ministrations.
I don't have much more to say about that, as this is a cruise forum and not one on political discussions, best carried out in OMNI/PR.
I don't have much more to say about that, as this is a cruise forum and not one on political discussions, best carried out in OMNI/PR.
Dec 27, 2012, 3:10 am
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The way to unite a country is to convince its people that they have a common enemy.Twas always thus and twas always thus will be.
(Musolini and Mr. Keating, Dead Poets Society, respectively).
Self-determination is a reasonable approach in principle. However, how long will it be before Palestine is colonised to the point of determining to be part of Israel?
I am reminded of an episode of the BBC's masterful comedy 'Yes Minister' when Sir Humphrey (head of the Civil Service and therefore a-political) explains the British approach of dividing and leaving a country to ensure they are more pre-occupied with themselves rather than with Britian. He lists British foreign policy successes - India, the Middle East, Cyprus and Ireland!
The British should never have been in the Falklands anyway but they were practically everywhere not so long ago. The old maps still in use at mother's school when she was a girl showed two-thirds of the World "pink" meaning British.
Like the Gibraltarans, the Falklanders tend to be much more pro-Britain than the British. It is not easy to see a solution when there are politicians fanning the nationalistic flames.
(Musolini and Mr. Keating, Dead Poets Society, respectively).
Self-determination is a reasonable approach in principle. However, how long will it be before Palestine is colonised to the point of determining to be part of Israel?
I am reminded of an episode of the BBC's masterful comedy 'Yes Minister' when Sir Humphrey (head of the Civil Service and therefore a-political) explains the British approach of dividing and leaving a country to ensure they are more pre-occupied with themselves rather than with Britian. He lists British foreign policy successes - India, the Middle East, Cyprus and Ireland!
The British should never have been in the Falklands anyway but they were practically everywhere not so long ago. The old maps still in use at mother's school when she was a girl showed two-thirds of the World "pink" meaning British.
Like the Gibraltarans, the Falklanders tend to be much more pro-Britain than the British. It is not easy to see a solution when there are politicians fanning the nationalistic flames.