Ship Words
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It is perfectly normal to hear ship terminology on a ship...what would be weird is if a land based resort used those nautical terms, despite what you think they were not being cutesy.....my favorite is "I have to head for the head"
One sure (shore) way to piss off anyone who who works on a ship, is to call it a boat.....there is a difference, they will be more than happy to tell you.
One sure (shore) way to piss off anyone who who works on a ship, is to call it a boat.....there is a difference, they will be more than happy to tell you.
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The Captain of a cruise ship is NOT a "naval" officer.. 
Apart from that... +1 on all the suggestions that if the OP doesn't want to hear maritime terms.. he should stay ashore...
Does the OP also object (fr'instance) to Doctors using medical terms too?

Apart from that... +1 on all the suggestions that if the OP doesn't want to hear maritime terms.. he should stay ashore...
Does the OP also object (fr'instance) to Doctors using medical terms too?
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This is precisely why they use the terms Port, Starboard, Forward, and Aft. Being in the US navy, I am use to these terms, but i do understand the civilians not know how they are used or why. They use the same terms on aircraft too. (just to a lesser degree!).
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A MUCH lesser degree, but it's probably because many early aviators were never sailors.
That said, much of the nautical terminology and identification can be attributed to naval traditions thanks to Juan Trippe (Pan Am); He was absolutely enamoured with oceanliner travel, and the fact that his aircraft at the time were water-based as well.
Some examples:
As for the exceptions, aviation broke away from standard nautical terms for some items; left and Right is a big difference. When you board a plane, you do not embark it, and when you de-plane, you do not disembark. Ships bunker, and planes refuel.
I could go on an on here, but considering the two different modes of travel, they both share a lot in common, as they both do one thing: transport you from point A to point B through a large expanse of fluid.
That said, much of the nautical terminology and identification can be attributed to naval traditions thanks to Juan Trippe (Pan Am); He was absolutely enamoured with oceanliner travel, and the fact that his aircraft at the time were water-based as well.
Some examples:
- Nautical miles are a standard unit of measure for both ships and planes, as it the equivilant of one minute of one degree at the equator.
- Most all transportation, most importantly ones that cross time zones, use GMT as a time basis on the operational side to avoid confusion and keep things consistant. This morning, my LAX-SLC flight departs at 1545Z, and arrives at 1730Z. Back in the 1800's, trains operated solely on EST to keep things consistant.
- Planes use the same lighting scheme as ships, mostly out of tradition, with the anti-collision light on aircraft one main difference; red on the left, green on the right, with white lights facing aft.
- Cabin, lavatory, galley, stow, and crew all come from ships.
- Also, flight planning and voyage planning are nearly identical, minus taking into account sea and air anomalies.
- Some airlines name their planes as well, such as jetBlue and the Virgin Group. Pan Am did it back in the day.
As for the exceptions, aviation broke away from standard nautical terms for some items; left and Right is a big difference. When you board a plane, you do not embark it, and when you de-plane, you do not disembark. Ships bunker, and planes refuel.
I could go on an on here, but considering the two different modes of travel, they both share a lot in common, as they both do one thing: transport you from point A to point B through a large expanse of fluid.
Last edited by DXjr; Mar 8, 2011 at 9:42 am
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As it was explained to me by the captain when we were out in the North Atlantic on a small icebreaker, If I didn't like it I was welcome to depart at the next port whether or not it had an airport. As what I was doing was required for my JOB, I learned the appropriate language and haven't been sorry about it.
Last time I heard, cruising for pleasure was voluntary. If you don't like the way things work and what words are used......don't get on the ship.
Last time I heard, cruising for pleasure was voluntary. If you don't like the way things work and what words are used......don't get on the ship.
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And aircraft also have bulkheads, hatches, sometimes ladders. For a mariner to have to say "to your left as you look toward the sharp, pointy end" is a bit affected, IMO. Then again, the OP should go for a sail where they speak of a beam reach, broad reach, sheets, athwart...
I've also noticed when I travel, the people in a number of countries I visit are speaking funny languages (especially in Australia). Hey, ship happens...
I've also noticed when I travel, the people in a number of countries I visit are speaking funny languages (especially in Australia). Hey, ship happens...
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