Am I "optimized" ?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Am I "optimized" ?
Just wondering how setup I am given the credit options out there. I never carry a balance, so low APRs don't matter to me, and I don't fly one airline enough to get status, so perks I can get through the card are used (e.g. Hilton Gold, Priority Pass for me + people who I travel with).
I'm carrying with me now:
Associated Bank Cash Rebate: use exclusively for food/pharmacy @ 5% back, up to $300, no fee.
PenFed Cash Rebate: use exclusively for gas and all other purchases @ 5% gas, 1.25% everything else, no fee.
Chairman Mastercard: Use for airline purchases, and some web purchases depending on additional TY points from the merchant, love the Priority Pass for me + 3 guests, $395/yr.
Without question, I come out way ahead each year, but could I be doing better on my returns?
I'm carrying with me now:
Associated Bank Cash Rebate: use exclusively for food/pharmacy @ 5% back, up to $300, no fee.
PenFed Cash Rebate: use exclusively for gas and all other purchases @ 5% gas, 1.25% everything else, no fee.
Chairman Mastercard: Use for airline purchases, and some web purchases depending on additional TY points from the merchant, love the Priority Pass for me + 3 guests, $395/yr.
Without question, I come out way ahead each year, but could I be doing better on my returns?
#2




Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New England
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Jetblue Mosaic (past)
Posts: 302
Just wondering how setup I am given the credit options out there. I never carry a balance, so low APRs don't matter to me, and I don't fly one airline enough to get status, so perks I can get through the card are used (e.g. Hilton Gold, Priority Pass for me + people who I travel with).
I'm carrying with me now:
Associated Bank Cash Rebate: use exclusively for food/pharmacy @ 5% back, up to $300, no fee.
PenFed Cash Rebate: use exclusively for gas and all other purchases @ 5% gas, 1.25% everything else, no fee.
Chairman Mastercard: Use for airline purchases, and some web purchases depending on additional TY points from the merchant, love the Priority Pass for me + 3 guests, $395/yr.
Without question, I come out way ahead each year, but could I be doing better on my returns?
I'm carrying with me now:
Associated Bank Cash Rebate: use exclusively for food/pharmacy @ 5% back, up to $300, no fee.
PenFed Cash Rebate: use exclusively for gas and all other purchases @ 5% gas, 1.25% everything else, no fee.
Chairman Mastercard: Use for airline purchases, and some web purchases depending on additional TY points from the merchant, love the Priority Pass for me + 3 guests, $395/yr.
Without question, I come out way ahead each year, but could I be doing better on my returns?
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Overall looks like you are in very good shape. Instead of the PenFed 1.25% for everything else, have you looked into Citi Platinum Amex--which will earn you 3 TY points for all purchases. See: https://www.citicards.com/cards/wv/c...o?screenID=927
#4




Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New England
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Jetblue Mosaic (past)
Posts: 302
If you don't fly, don't have a need for gift cards to major retailers, or don't have student loans to pay off, then I agree that you may not be able to quite get the the full 1 penny per TY point but otherwise you should be okay. I would say further devaluation in the near term is unlikely. Just guard yourself against any devaluation by redeeming your TY points on a fairly regular basis. If something changes, you can always switch away from the card immediately.
#5




Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: SPG, AA, BA, CO, UA, US, B6, DL, Amex MR, HH
Posts: 1,010
You could also go for the Schwab Visa for 2% cash back for everything else.
http://www.schwab.com/creditcard
http://www.schwab.com/creditcard
#6




Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 5,221
Associated = food/pharmacy
Penfed = Gas
Chairman = Airline ( and i think it is three total, you plus 2 not you plus 3)
Schwab = Everything else
Penfed = Gas
Chairman = Airline ( and i think it is three total, you plus 2 not you plus 3)
Schwab = Everything else
#7
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
#8
Original Member and FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
Programs: DL PM/MM, AA ExPlat, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia, National ECE, Hertz PC
Posts: 16,619
My current usage, in order of preference:
Hilton HHonors AMEX - 3 points/dollar on everything, 6 points/dollar on Hilton, internet, cell phone, and drugstores. I will probably upgrade to the new Surpass card to get Diamond for $40k in spend, though that is a bit of a stretch, since I have other spending on other cards like ...
Citi mtvU (similar to new Citi Forward card) - 5 TYP/dollar on restaurants, movies, and bookstores
Platinum AMEX - 2 MR points/dollar on gas and groceries (I was basically not using this card at all except for lounge access and Fine Hotels and Resorts before this new year-long promo)
Diners Club - 1 point/dollar on rental cars (50% bonus on BA transfers usually offered annually too)
Discover Card - Whatever they give 5% back on up to the limit
I don't use my Platinum AMEX or Diners Club much, but I like being in both programs and keeping points there for top-ups and promotions (i.e., promotions where you need x transactions from different partners, which both US and DL have run recently), they come in very handy.
Hilton HHonors AMEX - 3 points/dollar on everything, 6 points/dollar on Hilton, internet, cell phone, and drugstores. I will probably upgrade to the new Surpass card to get Diamond for $40k in spend, though that is a bit of a stretch, since I have other spending on other cards like ...
Citi mtvU (similar to new Citi Forward card) - 5 TYP/dollar on restaurants, movies, and bookstores
Platinum AMEX - 2 MR points/dollar on gas and groceries (I was basically not using this card at all except for lounge access and Fine Hotels and Resorts before this new year-long promo)
Diners Club - 1 point/dollar on rental cars (50% bonus on BA transfers usually offered annually too)
Discover Card - Whatever they give 5% back on up to the limit
I don't use my Platinum AMEX or Diners Club much, but I like being in both programs and keeping points there for top-ups and promotions (i.e., promotions where you need x transactions from different partners, which both US and DL have run recently), they come in very handy.
#9
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards



Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,664
So now our optimized plan is:
PenFed Platinum Rewards -- 5% on gas
Citi Forward -- 5% on restaurants, movies, book/record stores
Chase Freedom Plus -- 3.75% on grocery stores, gym membership, pet stores/vet, telecom (cell phones), Internet access, and drug stores
Discover Card -- for each quarter's 5% promotion
Everything else is split between an always-2% Orchard Bank card and a Southwest rewards card. (WN credits are the only ones I value close to 2%.)
For foreign travel, I start with a Capital One card with no transaction fee (yields 1% cash back) until it's full, then put the excess on the PenFed card (1.25% cash back minus 1% transaction fee = 0.25% cash back).
There are lots of great threads in various places on FT that helped us figure that out. Another ^ benefit of this community. These CC rewards can be a great value, considering we don't carry a balance month-to-month, especially for paying the regular living expenses and bills.
#10
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Ooo...lots of cards I hadn't thought of before. I might look to add one of the 2% cards for 'everything else' and one of the cards that gives restaurant bonuses.
This forum has been great, aside from cash back, I walked away with thousands in ticket vouchers that I never would have without info from here.
This forum has been great, aside from cash back, I walked away with thousands in ticket vouchers that I never would have without info from here.
#11
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 63
So now our optimized plan is:
PenFed Platinum Rewards -- 5% on gas
Citi Forward -- 5% on restaurants, movies, book/record stores
Chase Freedom Plus -- 3.75% on grocery stores, gym membership, pet stores/vet, telecom (cell phones), Internet access, and drug stores
Discover Card -- for each quarter's 5% promotion
Everything else is split between an always-2% Orchard Bank card and a Southwest rewards card. (WN credits are the only ones I value close to 2%.)
For foreign travel, I start with a Capital One card with no transaction fee (yields 1% cash back) until it's full, then put the excess on the PenFed card (1.25% cash back minus 1% transaction fee = 0.25% cash back).
PenFed Platinum Rewards -- 5% on gas
Citi Forward -- 5% on restaurants, movies, book/record stores
Chase Freedom Plus -- 3.75% on grocery stores, gym membership, pet stores/vet, telecom (cell phones), Internet access, and drug stores
Discover Card -- for each quarter's 5% promotion
Everything else is split between an always-2% Orchard Bank card and a Southwest rewards card. (WN credits are the only ones I value close to 2%.)
For foreign travel, I start with a Capital One card with no transaction fee (yields 1% cash back) until it's full, then put the excess on the PenFed card (1.25% cash back minus 1% transaction fee = 0.25% cash back).
Citi Platinum Amex - 5% gas, grocery, drugstore; 3% everything else
Citi Forward - 5% restaurant, movie theater, book store
Chase Freedom Plus - 3.75% utilities, satellite TV/internet, telecom, pet supply/veterinarian, local transit, department store
Discover More - 5% quarterly bonuses
Capital One NoHassle Rewards - 0% foreign currency exchange
Amex JetBlue Business - OPEN discounts, no expiration for JetBlue frequent flyer points
Ameriprise World Elite - Priority Pass lounge access
I also have a Bank of America USAirways card, but I would like to convert that into something else since I don't fly USAir any more. This card will be on the chopping block if I can't either convert it or downgrade it to a no annual fee version. I'm currently waiting to see if the rumored transition to Barclays pans out.
#12
Original Member

Join Date: May 1998
Location: Tampa, FL
Programs: AAMM & PLT; UA Gold, DL Silver, Marriott LT Titanium Elite, Hilton Diamond, Hertz #1 Gold Club
Posts: 1,592
[QUOTE=RoundtripWHW;11549706]My optimized rewards plan is very similar to MDtR-Chicago's:
Citi Platinum Amex - 5% gas, grocery, drugstore; 3% everything else
Ameriprise World Elite - Priority Pass lounge access
QUOTE]
I may be wrong, but I thought the Citi Plat also gives you priority pass lounge access.
Citi Platinum Amex - 5% gas, grocery, drugstore; 3% everything else
Ameriprise World Elite - Priority Pass lounge access
QUOTE]
I may be wrong, but I thought the Citi Plat also gives you priority pass lounge access.
#13
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 63
[QUOTE=jamflyer;11554026]
Yes, the Citi Platinum Amex also has Priority Pass access. The difference is that the Citi card only includes 3 free visits, while the Ameriprise card gives unlimited free visits. If I used the lounge privilege less than 9 times a year, it would be cheaper to drop the Ameriprise card and just pay an extra $27 for each visit beyond the third.
My optimized rewards plan is very similar to MDtR-Chicago's:
Citi Platinum Amex - 5% gas, grocery, drugstore; 3% everything else
Ameriprise World Elite - Priority Pass lounge access
QUOTE]
I may be wrong, but I thought the Citi Plat also gives you priority pass lounge access.
Citi Platinum Amex - 5% gas, grocery, drugstore; 3% everything else
Ameriprise World Elite - Priority Pass lounge access
QUOTE]
I may be wrong, but I thought the Citi Plat also gives you priority pass lounge access.
#15
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
That gravy train is over as far as I can tell. There are plenty of TY point redemption threads if you want to lament what once was available.
I've since fully cashed out of TY points and replaced my Chairman card w/ the one from Ameriprise. Once again, this forum helps me make/save so much money; annual fee of $150 vs. $400 is HUGE savings to get that Priority Pass.
I've since fully cashed out of TY points and replaced my Chairman card w/ the one from Ameriprise. Once again, this forum helps me make/save so much money; annual fee of $150 vs. $400 is HUGE savings to get that Priority Pass.

