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mia Jan 30, 2018 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 29356155)
... did not hear back from my banker. They also gave me a healthy credit limit of 11k as a college student. Also I should note that after the rejection, funds were transferred to my account for tuition....

Did you expect to be contacted by your Relationship Manager because you submitted the application through her or contacted her when the application was rejected? Do you (or your family) also have a relationship with HSBC in another country?

garykung Jan 30, 2018 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 29356155)
Do any of you know of what caused the sudden approval and what may have happened?

This is solely my speculation.

The way I see it - it is a simply a formality. If you qualify HSBC Premier without paying a monthly fee (this includes international linkage as well), you will get the card.

hl176 Jan 31, 2018 11:45 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 29359390)
Did you expect to be contacted by your Relationship Manager because you submitted the application through her or contacted her when the application was rejected? Do you (or your family) also have a relationship with HSBC in another country?

No, but since she didn't contact me, I'm assuming she didn't intervene.

I have HSBC in Canada which is actually where the main account is; the US account is just a linked account.

Edit: I just remembered that she sent me an email to send her more information; however, I'm not sure if it was after or before they rejected me. I was out of town during that time


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 29359948)
This is solely my speculation.

The way I see it - it is a simply a formality. If you qualify HSBC Premier without paying a monthly fee (this includes international linkage as well), you will get the card.

Yeah, I was always in Premier; however, I found it odd they sent the rejection letter and then afterwards, sent an approval letter.

What would lead to bank's credit department to rescind their rejection and suddenly approve without any intervention on my end? I should note that around the time of the rejection (before or after a few days), tuition funds were transferred to the account so maybe that had something to do with it? I'm not sure

I did miss a call from their toll free number so I'm assuming maybe they were going to discuss something with regards about that matter

garykung Feb 1, 2018 1:17 am


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 29362875)
What would lead to bank's credit department to rescind their rejection and suddenly approve without any intervention on my end?

No reason, especially given the fact that issuers canceled accounts after approval.

mia Feb 13, 2018 7:11 am

HSBC (USA) has added two transfer partners. Jet Airways and AeroMexico, but Asia Miles has been removed.

Now there are four (1:1):
  • AeroMexico
  • British Airways
  • Jet Airways
  • Singapore Airlines


HSBC (UK) still offers these four (2:1):
  • Asia Miles
  • British Airways
  • Etihad
  • Singapore Airlines

ExpatExp Mar 1, 2018 10:02 am

Just received an email from HSBC -- apparently I now have both a "Premier Relationship Advisor" (for investment and insurance advice) and a "Premier Relationship Manager" (for banking services). Before, I only had a "Premier Relationship Advisor" for everything. Wonder why the change. Edit: This is HSBC USA.

mia Mar 1, 2018 11:55 am


Originally Posted by ExpatExp (Post 29473355)
Just received an email from HSBC ...

In which country?

ExpatExp Mar 2, 2018 1:18 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 29473790)
In which country?

USA. Post edited.

abc5 Mar 10, 2018 10:25 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 29411264)
HSBC (USA) has added two transfer partners. Jet Airways and AeroMexico, but Asia Miles has been removed.

Now there are four (1:1):
  • AeroMexico
  • British Airways
  • Jet Airways
  • Singapore Airlines


HSBC (UK) still offers these four (2:1):
  • Asia Miles
  • British Airways
  • Etihad
  • Singapore Airlines

holy crap, they removed ASIA miles for USA market I didnt realize. I was holding onto my points for the past few years aiming for something an eventual asia miles redemption once I had a trip in place, but it never happened because i havent sought to travel to asia in recent years.

Did anyone notice for the USA market, the points to cash conversion has gone back to a 1:1 ?
i'm wondering if i should just cash out... decision is mine, but I don't udnerstand if converting my points to BA or Sinagpore would be worth it. I would like to fly to Europe and Canada in the near future. I also have 6K asiamiles sitting in my asiamiles account which now I cannot augment from my HSBC points as they dropped asiamiles.

If my memory serves me, there was a time a couple years earlier where the redemption was less than that. I could be wrong.

They are also devaluing the points come april.

devaluation ? Seat 31B

"Currently, for HSBC Premier members, the rate is 62 points per $1. However, as of April 2, 2018, the rate will increase to 80 points per $1. This is a significant devaluation, from about 1.6 cents per point in value down to 1.25 cents per point in value. I think this is most significant because it is the first major bank program ..."

abc5 Mar 10, 2018 11:58 am


Originally Posted by stanj (Post 28848420)
Just got a mailer announcing enhancements to the US card:

2x rewards on travel purchases (airlines, hotels and cruises)
TSA Pre application fee reimbursement (no mention of Global Entry)
$50 annual credit for Uber or Lyft rides ($10/ride)
Free Boingo wi-fi access
Free 2-day shipping via shoprunner.com
10% discount on hotel stays through Expedia, Agoda, or onefinestay

Continuing benefits include no FTF and contactless.

Not sure I can get excited about any of the new benefits. 2x travel rewards and free boingo might come in handy every blue moon.

what does 10/ride uber credit mean, if you have a $8 ride you deplete the balance down to $42. if you next have a 12$ ride you deplete the balance to $32, not $30?

abc5 Mar 10, 2018 2:17 pm

although asiamiles is gone as a transfer partner, British Air, Avios is still there. Avios points are usable on Cathay flights. So I went on the BA site and ran a query for a common Cathay fligh NYCt to Vancouver... this flight is really to Hong Kong, with that stop over in Vanoucver. Never really liked the flight as you get to Vancouver in the middle of the night, you lose the day (but this is another discussion)

But anyway, looking at the flight award breakdown, 25,000 avios and $77.34USD, not bad. I consider the 25,000 avios as $250USD. so would one be able to find a flight from NY to Vancouver for under $325.
Personally I would rather pay upwards of $425USD and get better flight times on the return leg, on another airline, aircanada or westjet if possible.

The flight times though Cathay on this flight are acceptable if you stay with a friend or family. if you are doing hotel or airbnb... if you pay for your stay.. you arrive at weird check in time, and leave every early... you blow a day of lodging having to leave at 10:55 PM, or check out in the afternoon and wonder what to do for half a day befoer the airport.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ba6f7733f4.jpg

Clipper801 Mar 13, 2018 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by abc5 (Post 29508696)
although asiamiles is gone as a transfer partner, British Air, Avios is still there. Avios points are usable on Cathay flights. So I went on the BA site and ran a query for a common Cathay fligh NYCt to Vancouver... this flight is really to Hong Kong, with that stop over in Vanoucver. Never really liked the flight as you get to Vancouver in the middle of the night, you lose the day (but this is another discussion)

But anyway, looking at the flight award breakdown, 25,000 avios and $77.34USD, not bad. I consider the 25,000 avios as $250USD. so would one be able to find a flight from NY to Vancouver for under $325.
Personally I would rather pay upwards of $425USD and get better flight times on the return leg, on another airline, aircanada or westjet if possible.

The flight times though Cathay on this flight are acceptable if you stay with a friend or family. if you are doing hotel or airbnb... if you pay for your stay.. you arrive at weird check in time, and leave every early... you blow a day of lodging having to leave at 10:55 PM, or check out in the afternoon and wonder what to do for half a day befoer the airport.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ba6f7733f4.jpg

For those contemplating to fly CX from YVR to JFK, there is no US CBP pre-clearance at YVR. One has to clear all US entry formalities at JFK which is a pain.

abc5 Apr 7, 2018 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by Clipper801 (Post 29521662)
For those contemplating to fly CX from YVR to JFK, there is no US CBP pre-clearance at YVR. One has to clear all US entry formalities at JFK which is a pain.

Thank you for that note. I don't travel much, isn't it common for the entry formalities to be done at the arrival airport thought, not the disembarking airport?

So was your point that doing CBP at JFK in particular, is a pain? and not about a personal preference for doing CBP pre flight than post flight?

I know that for flights from Montreal canada to NY -LGA, since LGA isn't a 'international' flights airport for NYC, that belongs to JFK, it doesn't have CBP, therefore that aspect it taken care of in Canada, montreal that is, YUL.

The downside is you must arrive at YUL earlier but once you land you're on your way quicker.

EmailKid Apr 8, 2018 7:54 am


Originally Posted by Clipper801 (Post 29521662)
For those contemplating to fly CX from YVR to JFK, there is no US CBP pre-clearance at YVR. One has to clear all US entry formalities at JFK which is a pain.

Just to be clear, no pre-clearance at YVR for THIS flight, as CX is in the non US side of Int'l terminal. Pretty much all other US bound flights go through CBP at YVR.

Clipper801 Apr 10, 2018 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by EmailKid (Post 29615927)
Just to be clear, no pre-clearance at YVR for THIS flight, as CX is in the non US side of Int'l terminal. Pretty much all other US bound flights go through CBP at YVR.

Yes, that is correct and thank you for clarifying.


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