Precision Churning
#76
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Originally Posted by martian
Is having lots of closed accounts considered to be a strike against you?
#77
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I would add that all this would not be possible without the full-on cooperation and consent of the cc issuers - no credit manager has ever told me to stop acquiring more accounts - so Thank You, Citi, Chase, and BofA, and continued success to your cc divisions.
#78
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Originally Posted by kaukau
I would add that all this would not be possible without the full-on cooperation and consent of the cc issuers - no credit manager has ever told me to stop acquiring more accounts - so Thank You, Citi, Chase, and BofA, and continued success to your cc divisions.
#79
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Originally Posted by travelwave
Do they ever ask why you want so many cards?
#80
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2 years for inquiries
7 years for derogatories
10 years for bankruptcies
No limit on neutrals or positives
And before someone asks that means open and closed accounts.
7 years for derogatories
10 years for bankruptcies
No limit on neutrals or positives
And before someone asks that means open and closed accounts.
#82
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Originally Posted by travelwave
Are there then better or worse ways to close an account? i.e. are there any benefits to merging with another line as opposed to just closing? (ignoring credit line increases) or is that basically the same thing?
#83
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Originally Posted by travelwave
Are there then better or worse ways to close an account? i.e. are there any benefits to merging with another line as opposed to just closing? (ignoring credit line increases) or is that basically the same thing?
#84




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Originally Posted by drbond
Quite honestly I don't think you have a Chairman Card so you will not be able to do anything with merging. There is only one way for you to close an account and that is to close it. If you could merge it would still be closed. I am beginning to agree this thread should be locked. The title will cause ft spies to read and maybe take away some of the benefits enjoyed by ft'ers. Change the title to eliminate the word churn and it might be ok.
amen
#86

Join Date: Apr 2002
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I've never had any problem with reallocation/merging, i.e. taking the credit line from an account I'm about to close and adding it to another before closing it. This is with Citi and Chase (not Chairman cards).
I don't think there's anything "taboo" about this... I think most issuers explicitly allow it for customers in good standing (Amex even lets you do it on their website). Not sure why this needs to be kept hush-hush?
I don't think there's anything "taboo" about this... I think most issuers explicitly allow it for customers in good standing (Amex even lets you do it on their website). Not sure why this needs to be kept hush-hush?
#87

Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by drbond
If you are young or have any negatives or are relatively limited or have a score under 780 then you will be headed downhill fast. It may even result in horrible credit in the near future and no ability to buy anything significant for many years of no applications.
The most important thing is never to miss any payments. Having a lot of accounts with different due dates can be like playing with fire in this regard.
#88

Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by travelwave
So, how do you know the exact day of approval? Do you call and ask?
With Citi it's almost always the same day (they usually pull the report "while you wait" after you submit the app).
With Chase it's generally the following day (not sure why - just takes them time to get info from one system to another I guess).
With Juniper it always seems to be pulled "while you wait," but if it goes into manual review, you can check http://www.applicationstatus.com and they'll tell you the date of your approval.
#89
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Originally Posted by 21A
You can also check your credit report. The day of the inquiry is usually the day of approval/denial.
Currently Chase is 3+ weeks out on underwriting apps that aren't auto approved. Not sure about Citi, BofA, Juniper or Amex.
#90

Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by Dudemon
This is only true if you get "instant" approval (or denial). If your app needs further underwriting it will not be the case since the credit pull in computer generated at the time you sbumit the app.

