No/Low Currency Conversion Fee Card
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No/Low Currency Conversion Fee Card
I received notice yesterday that the Mastercard I've been using for years to make purchases abroad will begin imposing a 3% currency conversion fee effective 1 April. Until now, it has only charged the 1% fee imposed by Mastercard, and because I do make a fair amount of non-US dollar charges, I have foregone the miles or points I could earn with an affiliated card and instead used this fee-free card. The math has obviously changed.
I know that Capital One imposes no conversion fee, and AMEX imposes a 2% fee, but are there any hotel- or airline-affiliated cards which don't impose more than the 1% fee that Visa and Mastercard impose? The Capital One doesn't offer "real" miles or points, and I doubt I'd be able to take advantage of the rewards it offers. Any information would be appreciated.
I know that Capital One imposes no conversion fee, and AMEX imposes a 2% fee, but are there any hotel- or airline-affiliated cards which don't impose more than the 1% fee that Visa and Mastercard impose? The Capital One doesn't offer "real" miles or points, and I doubt I'd be able to take advantage of the rewards it offers. Any information would be appreciated.
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Merrill+ Visa issued by MBNA. No annual fee. No foreign currency exchange fees. Reasonable rewards, including 1:1 redemption for British Airways Executive Club miles in 5,000 point increments.
I would not be surprised if they were to add a foreign currency fee, but inasmuch as there is no annual fee it seemsto be low risk to use it in the interim.
dennis
I would not be surprised if they were to add a foreign currency fee, but inasmuch as there is no annual fee it seemsto be low risk to use it in the interim.
dennis
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MBNA's AAA Visa and Pentagon Federal Credit Union's Visa both charge 1%. The later gives a 1.25% rebate on all purchases, neting you a profit. Both are described on the Free Cards Page, Cash Back Cards section of the Credit Cards section of my website below.
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Capital One actually has a cash back card. The offer tends to change quite frequently. What I see now is 1% cash back, 2% on groceries, payable in $25 chunks as a statement credit or check. A good deal if they stick with 0%. Though you then have to deal with Capital One...
Regarding the MBNA cards (Merrill+, AAA), I would guess at the first opportunity possible they will be converted to 3% as BofA is buying MBNA.
Regarding the MBNA cards (Merrill+, AAA), I would guess at the first opportunity possible they will be converted to 3% as BofA is buying MBNA.
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See Thread in MilesBuzz
There's one long thread about this over in MilesBuzz.
I expect you'll find it quite comprehensive if you have the time to read it all!
Best card for foreign exchange?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401958
I expect you'll find it quite comprehensive if you have the time to read it all!
Best card for foreign exchange?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401958
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Bank of America has already completed the acquisition of MBNA.
I believe cards serviced for other financial institutions, such as Merrill Lynch, are contractually different than affinity cards and that Merrill decides the terms. Still I cannot see any reason Merrill would choose not to charge a fee if their primary competitors already charge because they are not marketing this as a feature.
Originally Posted by acf573
Regarding the MBNA cards (Merrill+, AAA), I would guess at the first opportunity possible they will be converted to 3% as BofA is buying MBNA.
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Thanks for the info. pgary, I'd always discounted the Pentagon FCU's Visa on the assumption that I couldn't qualify, but after clicking through on your website, I learned that by paying $20 to join an auxiliary, I could. The things one learns through FlyerTalk ! Too bad the card doesn't earn miles or points, but you're right, the cash back more than makes up for that.
As you noted acf573 , the problem with the Capital One card is that you have to deal with Capital One . . .
jbfield, believe it or not, I did a search for threads dealing with currency conversion fees before posting this question, but obviously I didn't choose the right search terms; I'll try to do better next time. After all, it was the first time I've ever started a thread.
(And you're right about the length of time it took to scan the other thread.)
As you noted acf573 , the problem with the Capital One card is that you have to deal with Capital One . . .
jbfield, believe it or not, I did a search for threads dealing with currency conversion fees before posting this question, but obviously I didn't choose the right search terms; I'll try to do better next time. After all, it was the first time I've ever started a thread.
(And you're right about the length of time it took to scan the other thread.)
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I know this has been beaten to death on other threads but it seems like a very fluid situation with many companies changing terms as of April 1, 2006.
Is the CapitalOne card still the lowest foreign conversion fee at 1%?
If so, can CapitalOne miles/points be converted into BA miles?
The Merrill+ card looked like the winner until another poster said Bank of America was buying them. They will surely impose the 3% fee like they have with all their other acquisitions.
Is the CapitalOne card still the lowest foreign conversion fee at 1%?
If so, can CapitalOne miles/points be converted into BA miles?
The Merrill+ card looked like the winner until another poster said Bank of America was buying them. They will surely impose the 3% fee like they have with all their other acquisitions.
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Originally Posted by acf573
Capital One is actually at 0%. And yes, that is the lowest. Cap One "miles" are essentially just points that you can apply to purchasing a plane ticket.
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Originally Posted by psychtobe
though they still charge the 1% pass through fee from MC - or at least, that's what they told me on the phone yesterday.
That said, I use my Citi PP and Amex SPG when abroad. PP earns ~2%, 3% fee = -1%. Amex SPG I count as ~1.9%, ~2% fee = -0.5% or so after accounting for Amex's less competitive exchange rate. These options are competitive with a no reward, 1% card and don't have to deal with another piece of plastic.
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The fee is 1% for EVERY VI or MC!
The fact is Visa and Mastercard updated their system to impose an association fee of 1%. All VI & MC cards will have a 1% Foreign Transactions Fee as a result of the "WALMART LAWSUIT SETTLEMENT" Everything Walmart does is good for Walmart and bad for everyone else. Now off of the soapbox. The associations charge 1% as a seperate line item. The banks can add a surcharge to this fee as per their contract. This amount can be from 0% to 5% for doing absolutely nothing. The result is that for a VI or MC you will pay between 1% & 6% for any foreign transactions. I did a little research and this is what I found out. Bank of America cards are all 3%, Chase cards are all 3%, HSBC is 2% eeck, American Express is 2%, Discover is 0% (but only good in North America), Nordstrom is 1%, most credit unions are 1%, Macys is 1%, Juniper Bank is 2%, US Bank is 3%, MBNA is 1% on some and 3% on others but will increase all cards to 3% as of April 2006, Capital One is 1%. I hope this information is of help to you.
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Originally Posted by drbond
The fact is Visa and Mastercard updated their system to impose an association fee of 1%. All VI & MC cards will have a 1% Foreign Transactions Fee as a result of the "WALMART LAWSUIT SETTLEMENT" Everything Walmart does is good for Walmart and bad for everyone else. Now off of the soapbox. The associations charge 1% as a seperate line item. The banks can add a surcharge to this fee as per their contract. This amount can be from 0% to 5% for doing absolutely nothing. The result is that for a VI or MC you will pay between 1% & 6% for any foreign transactions. I did a little research and this is what I found out. Bank of America cards are all 3%, Chase cards are all 3%, HSBC is 2% eeck, American Express is 2%, Discover is 0% (but only good in North America), Nordstrom is 1%, most credit unions are 1%, Macys is 1%, Juniper Bank is 2%, US Bank is 3%, MBNA is 1% on some and 3% on others but will increase all cards to 3% as of April 2006, Capital One is 1%. I hope this information is of help to you.

