Global Blue Refund discrepancy
#1
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Global Blue Refund discrepancy
Global Blue is a VAT/ Sales tax refunding company (I think a private company, but might be somehow funded by the EU as a QGO). When retail purchases of goods for export are made, a form is produced by the retailer, and this is then stamped by customs officers at the departure airport, when leaving the EU. Those stamped forms are then given to a separate clerk at a Global Blue office (also pre-security at the airport). A credit slip (like a credit card billing slip) is produced and indicates the refund amount.
All of this has worked for me before, and also worked well on my most recent trip to Berlin, Germany. The Global Blue people presumably profit on the difference between the full 20%+ VAT that is paid and refunded to them and the approximately 12-14% that is in turn refunded by Global Blue to the customer. I accept that markup as their cost of doing business. But something else happened this trip...
The Global Blue slip indicated a refund amount of 137 Euros. But my AMEX account (which took about a week to process the credit) is indicating an amount of $138 (should be over $150 at 1.1/1.0 USD rate to the Euro). I thought it might be DCC, but the slip clearly states the refund amount in Euros. And AMEX has no clue why it came through in a lower amount and in dollars. I've opened a case with AMEX, but credits are not handled like regular disputed charge transactions, rendering any resolution more complex.
Does anyone know what is going on with Global Blue? Are they secretly re-processing credits and taking out more $$$ ?
All of this has worked for me before, and also worked well on my most recent trip to Berlin, Germany. The Global Blue people presumably profit on the difference between the full 20%+ VAT that is paid and refunded to them and the approximately 12-14% that is in turn refunded by Global Blue to the customer. I accept that markup as their cost of doing business. But something else happened this trip...
The Global Blue slip indicated a refund amount of 137 Euros. But my AMEX account (which took about a week to process the credit) is indicating an amount of $138 (should be over $150 at 1.1/1.0 USD rate to the Euro). I thought it might be DCC, but the slip clearly states the refund amount in Euros. And AMEX has no clue why it came through in a lower amount and in dollars. I've opened a case with AMEX, but credits are not handled like regular disputed charge transactions, rendering any resolution more complex.
Does anyone know what is going on with Global Blue? Are they secretly re-processing credits and taking out more $$$ ?
#2




Join Date: Oct 2007
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Posts: 2,712
I really don't believe the refund was processed in EUR, but in USD. In summary, Global Blue gets to decide what bogus exchange rate to use for the card refund. I think the card refund is still better than the instant cash and commission there, but not by much. It is stated in the fine print, but they don't disclose the rate.
Essentially, from 21% vat original, you will get only 10 to 12% back.
The whole situation feels like a sham, but I know most people feel something is better than nothing.
My refunds are still procesing, but here are some examples.
Premier Tax Free (likely same as Planet Tax Free)
IVA 116.28 EUR
Expected 85.50 EUR
Posted card credit 86.19 USD
Planet Tax Free
IVA 24.16 EUR
Expected 16.50 EUR
Posted card credit 16.63 USD
Global Blue
IVA 23.70 EUR
Expected 16.84 EUR
Posted card credit 17.43 USD
Global Blue
IVA 10.16 EUR
Expected 6.14 EUR
Posted card credit 6.25 USD
Essentially, from 21% vat original, you will get only 10 to 12% back.
The whole situation feels like a sham, but I know most people feel something is better than nothing.
My refunds are still procesing, but here are some examples.
Premier Tax Free (likely same as Planet Tax Free)
IVA 116.28 EUR
Expected 85.50 EUR
Posted card credit 86.19 USD
Planet Tax Free
IVA 24.16 EUR
Expected 16.50 EUR
Posted card credit 16.63 USD
Global Blue
IVA 23.70 EUR
Expected 16.84 EUR
Posted card credit 17.43 USD
Global Blue
IVA 10.16 EUR
Expected 6.14 EUR
Posted card credit 6.25 USD
Last edited by rasheed; Aug 9, 2023 at 8:09 pm
#3
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Read here: https://cs.globalblue.com/s/article/...language=en_US
In which currency will I receive my refund if I get my refund to a credit card?
If you want to receive your refund to Visa, MasterCard, and Diners, your credit card account will be credited to the billing currency of your credit card.
In case of JCB card, your refund will be credited in Japanese Yen (JPY). JCB will make the conversion to the currency in which your credit card is issued.
In case of UnionPay card, it will be created in US Dollars (USD). UnionPay will make the conversion to the currency in which your credit card is issued.
In case of Amex card, the default currency is in US Dollars (USD). However, the transactions may also be sent in other currencies such as Euro (EUR), Swiss Franc (CHF), Pound Sterling (GBP), Australian Dollar (AUD), and Polish Zloty (PLN), depending on the country in which the Amex card was issued.
If you want to receive your refund to Visa, MasterCard, and Diners, your credit card account will be credited to the billing currency of your credit card.
In case of JCB card, your refund will be credited in Japanese Yen (JPY). JCB will make the conversion to the currency in which your credit card is issued.
In case of UnionPay card, it will be created in US Dollars (USD). UnionPay will make the conversion to the currency in which your credit card is issued.
In case of Amex card, the default currency is in US Dollars (USD). However, the transactions may also be sent in other currencies such as Euro (EUR), Swiss Franc (CHF), Pound Sterling (GBP), Australian Dollar (AUD), and Polish Zloty (PLN), depending on the country in which the Amex card was issued.
#4


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I travel quite a bit to Germany. I try to avoid these services as much as I can when I shop there and instead ask the merchant for a direct tax refund after exporting the goods. Many stores in Germany are willing to do that.
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Has anyone had an experience with Global Blue refund to credit card where your number has since changed? My card was stolen since I filed the refund claim to my credit card. Will Chase figure out the new card number (same account) where the refund should go? This is why I prefer getting refund onsite, but of course, they hope you forget about it and say they will send it to your credit card. This is the second one Ive been waiting on that has not returned. One is now over one year for $1,000.
#6




Join Date: Oct 2007
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You should not wait more than a month from submission. If you have kept copies, you should ask Global Blue for a status update. It may be possible to update the card number if it is being processed maybe via the app or something similar.
Worse case is getting a check mailed, again using some bogus exchange rate.
Worse case is getting a check mailed, again using some bogus exchange rate.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: Delta EP, Starwood PM, Marriott GD
Posts: 5
Cash Refund
I really don't believe the refund was processed in EUR, but in USD. In summary, Global Blue gets to decide what bogus exchange rate to use for the card refund. I think the card refund is still better than the instant cash and commission there, but not by much. It is stated in the fine print, but they don't disclose the rate.
Essentially, from 21% vat original, you will get only 10 to 12% back.
The whole situation feels like a sham, but I know most people feel something is better than nothing.
My refunds are still procesing, but here are some examples.
Premier Tax Free (likely same as Planet Tax Free)
IVA 116.28 EUR
Expected 85.50 EUR
Posted card credit 86.19 USD
Planet Tax Free
IVA 24.16 EUR
Expected 16.50 EUR
Posted card credit 16.63 USD
Global Blue
IVA 23.70 EUR
Expected 16.84 EUR
Posted card credit 17.43 USD
Global Blue
IVA 10.16 EUR
Expected 6.14 EUR
Posted card credit 6.25 USD
Essentially, from 21% vat original, you will get only 10 to 12% back.
The whole situation feels like a sham, but I know most people feel something is better than nothing.
My refunds are still procesing, but here are some examples.
Premier Tax Free (likely same as Planet Tax Free)
IVA 116.28 EUR
Expected 85.50 EUR
Posted card credit 86.19 USD
Planet Tax Free
IVA 24.16 EUR
Expected 16.50 EUR
Posted card credit 16.63 USD
Global Blue
IVA 23.70 EUR
Expected 16.84 EUR
Posted card credit 17.43 USD
Global Blue
IVA 10.16 EUR
Expected 6.14 EUR
Posted card credit 6.25 USD
#8
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Pre-pandemic I was able to take out a VAT refund in Euro cash, after all from the refund processor e.g. Global Blue has been leeched (e.g. https://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/show/6982?page=1 #17)
Just been back from Spain where applying for a cash refund, I was informed by Global Blue AGP that I am not eligible for EUR cash refund "as a foreigner", and must choose a foreign currency to receive VAT refunds on. Having chosen USD, I was given USD 10 for my EUR 11.78 (my total refund was EUR 12.20) - only in Global Blue's universe can you get USDs that are worth more than EURs. Morgan Stanley Ireland must be doing their (magical fantasyland) currency conversion:


Just been back from Spain where applying for a cash refund, I was informed by Global Blue AGP that I am not eligible for EUR cash refund "as a foreigner", and must choose a foreign currency to receive VAT refunds on. Having chosen USD, I was given USD 10 for my EUR 11.78 (my total refund was EUR 12.20) - only in Global Blue's universe can you get USDs that are worth more than EURs. Morgan Stanley Ireland must be doing their (magical fantasyland) currency conversion:


Last edited by percysmith; Dec 3, 2023 at 8:19 am

