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jags86 Nov 15, 2023 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by cjw2001 (Post 35747409)
The rewards site is currently offline for maintenance. So somewhat likely they are implementing changes.

It's up for me and nothing new available.

cjw2001 Nov 15, 2023 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by jags86 (Post 35747499)
It's up for me and nothing new available.

Same here. Guess it will go live when they feel like it.

Bellacricket Nov 16, 2023 12:42 pm

Just read on Doctor of Credit that the rollout has been pushed back to Dec. 10. Still not holding my breath.

Boraxo Dec 2, 2023 9:11 pm

Earlier this year I designated this card for all MRCs (recurring online payments). For some years now I have one sock drawer card that I use for all such payments because it is a royal PITA to have to redo everything if one of your everyday cards is compromised through swipe fraud or otherwise. The WF card provides a decent rebate and good bonus categories for MRCs esp. with the cell phone insurance.

cjw2001 Dec 3, 2023 11:55 am


Originally Posted by Bellacricket (Post 35750355)
Just read on Doctor of Credit that the rollout has been pushed back to Dec. 10. Still not holding my breath.

According to https://thepointsguy.com/news/wells-...sfer-partners/ will be some time in 2024. Not much info in the story other than a "2024" target.

Points Scrounger Jan 10, 2024 3:56 pm

Used my Rewards account today for the first time buying tickets: really cheap Basic fares on Jet Blue where adding Even More Space later will be covered later by other cards.

cjw2001 Mar 6, 2024 10:24 am


Originally Posted by cjw2001 (Post 35792137)
According to https://thepointsguy.com/news/wells-...sfer-partners/ will be some time in 2024. Not much info in the story other than a "2024" target.

And the day for the announcement has finally come. Since it involves a new card I started a new thread for discussion on the new card.

For the existing Autograph:

Points Transfer goes live April 4 with initial launch partners including: Choice Privileges®, Air France-KLM Flying Blue, avianca lifemiles, British Airways Executive Club, AerClub, and Iberia Plus. More partners will continue to be added throughout the year.

Bellacricket Mar 6, 2024 1:37 pm

Underwhelming.

eponymous_coward Mar 7, 2024 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Bellacricket (Post 36058600)
Underwhelming.

Capital One was pretty underwhelming at the start of the Venture card (everyone was at 1.5 C1->1 on transfers, not all the current partners were there).

Now not so much. I would give it a little time; once some of the usual suspects like AC/CX/EK/SQ/VS show up it will be a pretty useful card I think. Already having AV puts it one up on Chase.

Points Scrounger Mar 11, 2024 3:05 pm

I do better with the 50% bonus cashing in points through their portal rather than paying cash for flights at times.

jags86 Mar 14, 2024 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by cjw2001 (Post 36058021)
And the day for the announcement has finally come. Since it involves a new card I started a new thread for discussion on the new card.

For the existing Autograph:

Points Transfer goes live April 4 with initial launch partners including: Choice Privileges®, Air France-KLM Flying Blue, avianca lifemiles, British Airways Executive Club, AerClub, and Iberia Plus. More partners will continue to be added throughout the year.

So this means that the only difference between the Autograph and the Autograph Journey is an extra 2x on hotels and an extra 1x on flights, $1000 cell phone insurance vs. $600, and some travel insurance?

cjw2001 Mar 14, 2024 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by jags86 (Post 36080438)
So this means that the only difference between the Autograph and the Autograph Journey is an extra 2x on hotels and an extra 1x on flights, $1000 cell phone insurance vs. $600, and some travel insurance?

And slightly less rewards on certain categories (mobile phone, streaming, and some specific transit/travel items).

So unless the travel insurance is worth it or you spend a lot on hotels and airfare it might not justify the $95 fee.

Tokar Mar 17, 2024 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by jags86 (Post 36080438)
So this means that the only difference between the Autograph and the Autograph Journey is an extra 2x on hotels and an extra 1x on flights, $1000 cell phone insurance vs. $600, and some travel insurance?

Added $95/fee
Annual $50 airfare credit
Double the maximum sign-up bonus (max for the Autograph has been 30,000 points, currently showing 20,000. SUB for the Autograph Journey is 60,000, 70,000 for Wells Fargo Premier clients)
Extra 2% on hotels (vs Autograph card)
Extra 1% on airfare (vs Autograph card)
Loss of 2% on streaming, gas, phone (vs Autograph card)

The sting of the losses are not that big of a deal if you have other cards with 3% gas (AMEX Blue Cash), 3% streaming (Capital One Savor/SavorOne). You won't find 3% phone anywhere, though. Only Chase Freedom Flex and USBank Cash+ offer 5% - Flex is of course limited to a single 3 month quarter, and the Cash+ card is a category choice (meaning you'd have to make that your preferred over other categories).

eponymous_coward Mar 18, 2024 11:38 am


Originally Posted by Tokar (Post 36088396)
You won't find 3% phone anywhere, though.

Perhaps not for personal cards but the Chase Ink Preferred is 3x on phone.

Anyways, $3k on hotels/airfare 50/50 should likely break even on the Autograph Journey compared to the Autograph's 3%. And WF accepts product downgrades if you really want to get the high SUB in year one and then downgrade to Autograph in the future.

That being said, I could totally see someone doing a multiple card setup with Autograph Journey and Autograph, or a $0 AF transferrable card setup with Autograph and Active Cash.

jags86 Mar 18, 2024 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 36089921)
Perhaps not for personal cards but the Chase Ink Preferred is 3x on phone.

Anyways, $3k on hotels/airfare 50/50 should likely break even on the Autograph Journey compared to the Autograph's 3%. And WF accepts product downgrades if you really want to get the high SUB in year one and then downgrade to Autograph in the future.

That being said, I could totally see someone doing a multiple card setup with Autograph Journey and Autograph, or a $0 AF transferrable card setup with Autograph and Active Cash.

Ink Cash is 5x on phone.
Elan Max Cash Preferred/US Bank Cash+ offers cell phones as a 5% category on personal cards.

I think if you travel for work and your company lets you use your personal card for expenses, 5x on hotels is a unique category for Wells Fargo. I personally like the 1:2 Choice transfer option as there are a couple of Ascend properties my wife and I like to go to that are part of the Choice program. At 25k/night, it requires only $2500 of spend at any hotel to get a $400-$500 free night.


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