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dw Aug 16, 2022 9:58 am

I ended up applying for this.

The pros are the application process and the Bilt Rewards app worked pretty seamlessly-- as soon as I was approved I was able to go into the Bilt app and add my new card to my phone's digital wallet; the app will also show you your card number to use for online purchases immediately. The app also shows you points earned per purchase as soon as it posts to your Wells Fargo account. Card shipped pretty quickly and I liked the follow up e-mails from Bilt on the card delivery status.

One con is that I received a pseudo welcome offer after applying, which was 5x points on all purchases for 5 days starting the day I received my card. What has been frustrating is that the offer specifically mentioned the start date of the promotion (8/10), yet my account must have been coded incorrectly with the promo because when my purchases posted, nothing for 8/10 received the bonus points. I've reached out to Bilt Support to have them look into this, but their response time is definitely a bit slow.

zakami Aug 20, 2022 3:27 pm

My home is owned by a trust. Can I "rent" the home from the trust and make payments to it?

fredc84 Aug 26, 2022 2:10 pm

I haven't gotten this card yet (been working on Chase...3/5 so far), but they added BA and will add Iberia and Aer Lingus in the fall as transfer partners. Living in NYC, it'd be very easy to hit the 50,000 points on rent annually.

Also, 'Frequent Miler' says that you can now generate ACH info if you pay your rent through a portal..."In the Bilt Rewards app, cardholders have the option to send a rent payment by mailing a check or by ACH transfer using ClickPay, RentCafe, or other online payment portals."

newguy05 Sep 1, 2022 8:25 am

hi anyone able to link their united account to this card via the app, i have been trying for the last few days and every time i get an error. Customer service is non-existent.

This card so far has been a complete disaster, transactions would disappear for days then magically reappear then disappear again making it very confusing, every time customer service states it's a bug they are fixing. United card linkage doesn't work so cant transfer to miles, which is my only use for its points. Seems the tech is not ready for release.

CaptJOB Sep 1, 2022 11:43 am


Originally Posted by newguy05 (Post 34563702)
Customer service is non-existent.

The only issue I've had is not being able to link IHG which I was just doing for the 100 bonus points anyhow. Otherwise everything has worked well. Have a case opened with their CS about that but they informed me it could take a while.

[email protected] was an email given I'm assuming by Richard Kerr in a comment on VFTW. Could be worth a reach out if it's actually him...

eponymous_coward Sep 7, 2022 8:41 am


Originally Posted by newguy05 (Post 34563702)
hi anyone able to link their united account to this card via the app, i have been trying for the last few days and every time i get an error. Customer service is non-existent.

This card so far has been a complete disaster, transactions would disappear for days then magically reappear then disappear again making it very confusing, every time customer service states it's a bug they are fixing. United card linkage doesn't work so cant transfer to miles, which is my only use for its points. Seems the tech is not ready for release.

Zero issues using the card, billing, points accrual, linking accounts or transfer to Hyatt. I am using the Evolve branded card not the WF one. I don’t doubt your experience but I find this a valuable card in my portfolio.

FWIW this card is 3x gas and EV charging until October 31 for up to $1250 in charges.

https://www.biltrewards.com/terms/3x-on-fuel

Bilt seems to be good at adding value as time goes by. For a no AF card it’s been useful for me, useful enough to take a hit on going under 5/24.

Troopers Sep 13, 2022 10:07 am


Originally Posted by jebr (Post 34421869)
On my Bilt card (Evolve-issued, not WF-issued) dining transactions round down to the nearest point (the extra point is issued at 34 cents and probably the 67 cent mark.) A $1.60 transaction earns 4 points, a $2.10 transaction earns 6 points, etc. I did notice that an $x.33 transaction didn't give me the extra point and rounded down to the same earnings as $x.00, but an $x.34 cent transaction gave an extra point. I don't have any transactions at the $x.66 or $x.67 mark to tell where that line is, but $x.68 earns 2 extra points over what a $x.00 transaction would be. A bit annoying that it doesn't round up or to the nearest, but not a big deal for me.

On my mom's WF issued card, multiple the charge by 3 then round down. So I a $3.66 dining purchase equates to 10 points and a $3.67 dining purchases equates to 11 points.



Originally Posted by newguy05 (Post 34563702)
hi anyone able to link their united account to this card via the app, i have been trying for the last few days and every time i get an error. Customer service is non-existent.

This card so far has been a complete disaster, transactions would disappear for days then magically reappear then disappear again making it very confusing, every time customer service states it's a bug they are fixing. United card linkage doesn't work so cant transfer to miles, which is my only use for its points. Seems the tech is not ready for release.

No problem's here. Everything works as advertised.

baydude Sep 15, 2022 7:13 am

Just got the card and confused about this statement on the app: “Make at least 5 transactions that post each statement period to earn points on all of these categories: 1x rent, 2x points on travel, 3x points on dining”

Does that mean if I only use the card for rent 1 time per month, I won’t get any points and I need to make 4 other transactions?

dw Sep 15, 2022 8:14 am


Originally Posted by baydude (Post 34602141)
Just got the card and confused about this statement on the app: “Make at least 5 transactions that post each statement period to earn points on all of these categories: 1x rent, 2x points on travel, 3x points on dining”

Does that mean if I only use the card for rent 1 time per month, I won’t get any points and I need to make 4 other transactions?

Yes. (Well technically I think you might get 250 points in that case.)

Fly_PHL Sep 15, 2022 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by baydude (Post 34602141)
Just got the card and confused about this statement on the app: “Make at least 5 transactions that post each statement period to earn points on all of these categories: 1x rent, 2x points on travel, 3x points on dining”

Does that mean if I only use the card for rent 1 time per month, I won’t get any points and I need to make 4 other transactions?

Correct! however they waved the requirement for 5 transactions for my first statement (which was 2 months ago)

dsauch Sep 23, 2022 3:04 pm

Is it a WF, Bilt or timing thing - paid off my balance yesterday and the available credit still shows as if I have not.
Both WF and Bilt show the same thing, 0 balance and only 1/3 of credit available.

mia Sep 23, 2022 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by dsauch (Post 34625252)
.... paid off my balance yesterday and the available credit still shows as if I have not.
.....

How long has the account been open and how did you make the payment?

dsauch Sep 23, 2022 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by mia (Post 34625550)
How long has the account been open and how did you make the payment?

this is my first month, first statement just closed
paid as a pull from bank account

mia Sep 23, 2022 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by dsauch (Post 34625588)
....first statement just closed paid as a pull from bank account

From the issuer's perspective they have received payment drawn on "a" bank account, but they need time for the funds to clear -and- to gain confidence that it is "your" bank account.

dsauch Sep 24, 2022 6:24 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 34625604)
From the issuer's perspective they have received payment drawn on "a" bank account, but they need time for the funds to clear -and- to gain confidence that it is "your" bank account.

right... After they've connected the account via plaid via MFA and drawn the funds via ACH, they are waiting for funds to "clear". With all due respect it sounds more like It issue than "compliance".

What has other card users' experience been with balance reset on payment?

dw Sep 24, 2022 11:45 am


Originally Posted by dsauch (Post 34626415)
right... After they've connected the account via plaid via MFA and drawn the funds via ACH, they are waiting for funds to "clear". With all due respect it sounds more like It issue than "compliance".

What has other card users' experience been with balance reset on payment?

I had an existing relationship with WF but no cards currently open… and I recall it also took a few days for them to release my credit line on my Bilt card after making my first payment. Wasn’t an issue the second month.

eponymous_coward Sep 26, 2022 9:51 am

Bilt is now doing a Rent Day where all non-rent payments are double points (dining is 6x, travel is 4x, everything else is 2x).

6x/4x/2x Hyatt isn't shabby IMO.

Troopers Sep 28, 2022 9:00 am


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 34631761)
Bilt is now doing a Rent Day where all non-rent payments are double points (dining is 6x, travel is 4x, everything else is 2x).

6x/4x/2x Hyatt isn't shabby IMO.

This is clever and unique, I like it. First Rent Day falls on this Saturday and aligns well with my plans :). And I will delay buying airfare until Saturday to capture the 4x.

fedolefan Oct 7, 2022 12:43 pm

Does anyone have DPs if applications for this card have been approved for non permanent residents / citizens of the US. I’ve heard Wells Fargo doesn’t approve credit cards if you’re not a citizen/PR.

nexusCFX Oct 9, 2022 7:36 am


Originally Posted by fedolefan (Post 34662827)
Does anyone have DPs if applications for this card have been approved for non permanent residents / citizens of the US. I’ve heard Wells Fargo doesn’t approve credit cards if you’re not a citizen/PR.

I can give you a DP as a non-PR but the caveat is that I got the card before WF became the issuer.

sjm0028 Oct 10, 2022 1:34 pm

Bilt CC aproval question
 
I just applied for a Bilt Master Card through a link provided by our Avalon Bay
community rental portal. It filled out the address information. But then
Bilt said I was only approved for $1500. So the card can't be used to
pay Boston rent obviously (maybe Bilt knows something about Boston
rents that I do not?). I logged in using a PC. Bilt then asked me
for a rental address to connect to. I entered the same address as
my apartment complex provided, but Bilt said it is not part of
its rental program. Any suggestions on what to do?

dw Oct 10, 2022 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by sjm0028 (Post 34670090)
I just applied for a Bilt Master Card through a link provided by our Avalon Bay
community rental portal. It filled out the address information. But then
Bilt said I was only approved for $1500. So the card can't be used to
pay Boston rent obviously (maybe Bilt knows something about Boston
rents that I do not?). I logged in using a PC. Bilt then asked me
for a rental address to connect to. I entered the same address as
my apartment complex provided, but Bilt said it is not part of
its rental program. Any suggestions on what to do?

If your credit limit isn’t high enough to cover rent you can link a bank account and the rent will be debited directly from your bank account. Provided you have the card and still make the minimum monthly transactions, you’ll still get points for paying rent

sjm0028 Oct 28, 2022 2:41 pm

Does Bilt have a customer service phone number? I am having a problem paying my
rent to Avalon Bay through the Biltprotect portal to get the points. Problem is that the
app instructions are some how wrong for my account so it does not give me any
routing number and account number to pay to get points. I could not find any
phone number on the Bilt web site or Android App. I filed a chat request but
got a we are reviewing it email reply. Problem is that I am going to a conference
(flying) to UK Saturday.

Dr Jabadski Oct 29, 2022 8:29 am

Would appreciate updated comments/reviews/status reports for this card re:

- Does a successful Bilt Mastercard application (approval) count toward Chase’s 5/24?

- Previous report(s) here of delayed or missing paper checks sent for rent payment, is that still a problem?

- Can Bilt be used successfully to pay condominium monthly/common/maintenance charges?

- Can Bilt be used successfully to pay mortgage payments?

Thank you.

Troopers Nov 1, 2022 9:46 am


Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski (Post 34717219)
Would appreciate updated comments/reviews/status reports for this card re:

- Does a successful Bilt Mastercard application (approval) count toward Chase’s 5/24?

- Previous report(s) here of delayed or missing paper checks sent for rent payment, is that still a problem?

- Can Bilt be used successfully to pay condominium monthly/common/maintenance charges?

- Can Bilt be used successfully to pay mortgage payments?

Thank you.

Yes
Don't know
Don't know but guessing unlikely
Don't know but guessing highly unlikely

fedolefan Nov 17, 2022 11:17 pm

Is transit(Lyft/Uber)/parking considered as travel as far the Bilt card is concerned?

moe8555 Nov 18, 2022 3:51 am


Originally Posted by fedolefan (Post 34767190)
Is transit(Lyft/Uber)/parking considered as travel as far the Bilt card is concerned?

No, which is kind of funny considering their target segment of young urbanites.

eponymous_coward Nov 22, 2022 6:53 am

https://viewfromthewing.com/bilt-ful...n-other-spend/

Double points for everything except rent for a week instead of a day. 6x dining, 4x travel, 2x everything else. You can also transfer to IHG at 1 Bilt:2 IHG on December 1 (which isn’t amazeballs but if you have a Bilt balance I could see ways you get excess value out of it).

dw Nov 22, 2022 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 34776837)
https://viewfromthewing.com/bilt-ful...n-other-spend/

Double points for everything except rent for a week instead of a day. 6x dining, 4x travel, 2x everything else. You can also transfer to IHG at 1 Bilt:2 IHG on December 1 (which isn’t amazeballs but if you have a Bilt balance I could see ways you get excess value out of it).

They’re definitely doing a good job of keeping cardholders engaged

MarcusBWI Nov 28, 2022 4:48 pm

Has anybody used the "rent" payment feature of the card for something other than rent? Since Bilt seems to send out a check to your landlord, could you use the card to pay, say, child care expenses every month? Would be nice to get an extra 1,700 points a month for this expense!

Troopers Nov 30, 2022 9:22 am

Anyone achieve Silver tier and earned interest on points? What interest rate are you getting?

dw Nov 30, 2022 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by Troopers (Post 34795902)
Anyone achieve Silver tier and earned interest on points? What interest rate are you getting?

It’s roughly 2%, credited monthly

DCFlyer0306 Dec 10, 2022 7:58 am

HOA / condo
 
Has anyone determined whether Bilt works on condo dues / HOA payments?

eponymous_coward Dec 20, 2022 10:50 pm


Originally Posted by MarcusBWI (Post 34791444)
Has anybody used the "rent" payment feature of the card for something other than rent? Since Bilt seems to send out a check to your landlord, could you use the card to pay, say, child care expenses every month? Would be nice to get an extra 1,700 points a month for this expense!

I’ve been using the card to pay rent since April. It’s using ACH payments on rent portals (one of them being their own). If the portal doesn’t identify as a rental portal it won’t work.

mtxing Dec 26, 2022 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by MarcusBWI (Post 34791444)
Has anybody used the "rent" payment feature of the card for something other than rent? Since Bilt seems to send out a check to your landlord, could you use the card to pay, say, child care expenses every month? Would be nice to get an extra 1,700 points a month for this expense!

One of Bilt's representatives claimed on reddit that they have a team who "reviews" payments and reserves the right to request a copy of your lease if they don't believe it's a rent payment. Haven't seen many data points of people actually pushing the system, though.

aznyc Jan 14, 2023 6:12 pm

More data points
 
Have Bilt card by Wells Fargo with $30k credit line.
More info if anyone is interested.

1. I pay MORTGAGE with it for last 3 months (using ACH). Getting the 1% points no problems.
2. I pay HOA similarly using ACH. Getting 1% points.
3. You can add authorized user if you want to via Wells Fargo website.
4. You CAN transfer points not just to yourself (at least I was able to add my wife's Hyatt account, while I did NOT add her as authorized user, but I haven't validated the points transfer. Just can confirm that the app allowed to link it). Bilt support told me that if you add an authorized user, then for sure you shouldn't have any problems with points transfer. For example, with Citi you cannot transfer points to authorized users.

Troopers Jan 15, 2023 9:49 am

My mom’s card was hit with fraud. New card will be rushed. I’ll need to re enter new routing number/account for rent payments. Anyone have issues with that?

dw Jan 15, 2023 10:09 am


Originally Posted by Troopers (Post 34926968)
My mom’s card was hit with fraud. New card will be rushed. I’ll need to re enter new routing number/account for rent payments. Anyone have issues with that?

I was hit with the same fraud last week. However, when I check my rent payment ACH info in the Bilt app, it does not appear that the routing number or account number have changed, which makes sense since they are not related to the Mastercard card account number.

Troopers Jan 15, 2023 10:40 am


Originally Posted by dw (Post 34927011)
I was hit with the same fraud last week. However, when I check my rent payment ACH info in the Bilt app, it does not appear that the routing number or account number have changed, which makes sense since they are not related to the Mastercard card account number.

Ok, thanks. The agent said I will need to update. Have you made a successful rent payment since fraud incident?

Mom’s acct was also hit last week but received text and email alerts today.

mnmag Jan 15, 2023 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by Troopers (Post 34926968)
My mom’s card was hit with fraud. New card will be rushed. I’ll need to re enter new routing number/account for rent I payments. Anyone have issues with that?

I had alerts for a couple of fraudulent charges & will be getting a new card.


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