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Originally Posted by MaxVO
(Post 34487148)
At this point DCC is not even a deception as everyone knows what's happening. And there are many similar taxes and fees that we likewise pay all the time.
For smaller transaction amounts, it is about the principle, but there has got to be a threshold where most people would complain. For instance, if you had a restaurant bill of $90, paid $100 cash, and only received $5 in change, I'm sure you would speak up. |
Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 34487255)
... there has got to be a threshold where most people would complain.
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
(Post 34487148)
At this point DCC is not even a deception as everyone knows what's happening.
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Originally Posted by IndyHoosier
(Post 34487682)
It is absolutely a deception. I would bet that the vast majority of tourists have never heard of DCC and have no idea what is happening.
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Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 34487742)
I agree. It's not consumer friendly and quite frankly, it should be illegal.
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Originally Posted by pgary
(Post 34426911)
How did you refuse it, demanding local currency instead?
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
(Post 34487760)
DCC must at least disclose the actual charge, which is not the case with bank spreads.
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
(Post 34487760)
Hell NO! By that logic any banking operation would be shut down, since they're all taking cuts without delivering goods or useful services.
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Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 34488976)
... DCC, on the other hand, is only good for shoveling money into the pockets of merchants and the processors that support it.
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I just saw DCC for a transaction in front of me at Harrods at LHR. The rate was £52.95 @ 1.1777 USD/GBP and quoted on the register as $62.37. I couldn't see whether the card was a Visa or Mastercard, so I don't know the exchange rate that would have been used. However, the markup would be close to 4% using the current exchange rate. The cashier didn't mention anything, so my guess is that the prompt appeared on the credit card terminal.
I paid with a Visa and used contactless. This avoided DCC automatically for my £35 purchase. |
I had only a couple of transactions (taxi and gift shop) recently in Netherlands and France, with no DCC encountered.
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Apparently you have no choice but to opt into DCC if you want to use your PayPal balance. For example, while the option to use your balance does appear if you opt to be charged in USD:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...77a6d59162.jpg it does not appear if you opt out of DCC: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bfe293a16c.jpg Probably not a new thing they're doing but figured I'd let people know. (€129.95 is $127.03 at current exchange rates per Google, so PayPal's conversion would result in paying $133.64 - 127.03 = $6.61 extra, not taking into account the existing PayPal balance.) |
Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 34696725)
Apparently you have no choice but to opt into DCC if you want to use your PayPal balance.
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Originally Posted by Majuki
(Post 34697073)
While the exchange rates there are unfavorable, I imagine there's not a graceful way to do the transaction split between the PayPal balance and a card across currencies.
Anyway, I don't mind transferring the balance to my bank account first. I'd probably end up with more UR points doing that, too, since the charge would be on the full amount rather than the remaining USD balance. |
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