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Majuki Jul 23, 2017 10:23 pm


Originally Posted by generikz (Post 28598722)
Thank you for the very details reply/status.

This happens occasionally in the US too. A familiar case is British Airways. They say they process the transaction out of Florida, and the transaction is in USD natively (no currency conversion is happening), but you'll see a foreign transaction fee if your card has one. :eek:

Rare Jul 23, 2017 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by Majuki (Post 28598844)
This happens occasionally in the US too. A familiar case is British Airways. They say they process the transaction out of Florida, and the transaction is in USD natively (no currency conversion is happening), but you'll see a foreign transaction fee if your card has one. :eek:

Yep. I've encountered this a few times when purchasing software licenses online if the company or its payment processor is located outside of the US (e.g. independent software developers that use Paddle to manage their payments). Now I make sure to use a card without foreign transaction fees in those cases.

say170 Jul 24, 2017 12:07 pm

Raised a dispute with my issuer for Airbnb.

I should have been charged €787 for a rental which as Mastercard rates was £695.30. Was charged £713. This was despite opening a German account, going via a VPN in Germany. They are obviously detecting the BIN/IIN range and determining the issuing country and charging the home currency (DCC).

Let's see what my issuer says.

AllieKat Jul 24, 2017 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by say170 (Post 28601519)
Raised a dispute with my issuer for Airbnb.

I should have been charged €787 for a rental which as Mastercard rates was £695.30. Was charged £713. This was despite opening a German account, going via a VPN in Germany. They are obviously detecting the BIN/IIN range and determining the issuing country and charging the home currency (DCC).

Let's see what my issuer says.

Expect to be banned from AirBnB. No proof it just seems likely. Seriously it's such a horrible company I see the as no big loss.
.

Majuki Jul 24, 2017 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by AllieKat (Post 28601564)
Expect to be banned from AirBnB. No proof it just seems likely. Seriously it's such a horrible company I see the as no big loss.
.

AirBnB will ban a customer for a legitimate chargeback? (I agree with no real loss.)

AllieKat Jul 24, 2017 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by Majuki (Post 28601743)
AirBnB will ban a customer for a legitimate chargeback? (I agree with no real loss.)

As I said I don't know, but I would expect it with how they behave... thus why I said expect to be, not that he would be, but that he should expect it.

percysmith Jul 24, 2017 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by say170 (Post 28601519)
Raised a dispute with my issuer for Airbnb.

I should have been charged €787 for a rental which as Mastercard rates was £695.30. Was charged £713. This was despite opening a German account, going via a VPN in Germany. They are obviously detecting the BIN/IIN range and determining the issuing country and charging the home currency (DCC).

Let's see what my issuer says.

Next time try PayPal http://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21937 #4

(Disable PayPal's own DCC of course https://www.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/15295 #1)

say170 Jul 26, 2017 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by AllieKat (Post 28602987)
As I said I don't know, but I would expect it with how they behave... thus why I said expect to be, not that he would be, but that he should expect it.

I hope not, I haven't taken my holiday yet. If I get there and they've canceled it I will be taking legal action.

AllieKat Jul 26, 2017 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by say170 (Post 28610898)
I hope not, I haven't taken my holiday yet. If I get there and they've canceled it I will be taking legal action.

You disputed the charge for a hotel stay that hasn't yet occurred? Wow... That's daring.

say170 Jul 26, 2017 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by AllieKat (Post 28610936)
You disputed the charge for a hotel stay that hasn't yet occurred? Wow... That's daring.

I disputed the £18 charge which I paid because they applied DCC. My issuer has to accept the dispute (and they haven't contacted me yet), then it has to go do MasterCard, and they have to review it. By the time that all happens I'll be back home.

In hindsight, I should have put it on my Amex card and I would have got 2% cashback. This would have covered the charge.

oliver2002 Aug 1, 2017 1:55 am

While looking at my pile of millions at DKB I noticed that they warn users of DCC:
https://www.dkb.de/info/kostenfalle-umrechnung/ ^

terryversay Aug 6, 2017 6:56 pm

Thank you for sharing, Majuki ;)

generikz Aug 8, 2017 3:52 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 28598801)
Think that'll work, Paypal seems to centralise a lot in Singapore (work has been looking into opening a merchant account with Paypal for reasons I do not wish to elaborate, and we've been given tax advise to *not* collect it via Singapore. We're going to meet with Paypal Hong Kong to see if that's possible).

Turned out... DCC FEE again because this time Paypal Singapore is based in... Hong Kong of course!

Julien

percysmith Aug 8, 2017 4:09 am


Originally Posted by generikz (Post 28661791)
Turned out... DCC FEE again because this time Paypal Singapore is based in... Hong Kong of course!

Wait:

1. Do you mean a cross-border fee/foreign transaction fee (1% tacked onto your SGD transaction processed outside of Singapore) (I think HSBC Singapore does this) or true DCC (a non-SGD transaction converted into SGD by Paypal)?

2. Where is the Paypal merchant located and what is the original currency of the item you're paying for?

Points Scrounger Aug 9, 2017 8:28 am

If this has been dealt with, sorry.

Last week in Iceland I was looking for which key to press to get the charge in ISK when the choice appeared on screen. Clerk had to explain that it was a matter of touching one or the other option directly, no button involved. Usually, we used NFC, but this one transaction seemed to go through as Samsung Pay via swipe slot (had to sign for a $5 coffee even with a PIN card).

On a more pleasant note, these days when I warn folks about DCC costing extra, they are often already aware of the need to choose local, not dollars. Folks may not grasp the details, but they get that in the long run they'll end up paying more that way.


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