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Pencegeri Jun 30, 2015 7:41 am


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 25047165)
If it exists, I haven't heard of it.

I do not do 6 figures, I easily do 5 figures a month and, make money.

BOSOGG Jun 30, 2015 9:36 am


Originally Posted by travelfreaks (Post 25046606)
The shy has not fallen and I agree this thread is overly dramatic. There are so many opportunities for those willing to learn and impliment them. It is very easy to earn well into 6 figures of miles per month, plus $$$$, without even earning a single sign up bonus.


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 25047165)
If it exists, I haven't heard of it.

That's because if it does exist, and you read about it on FT, it will not exist for long.

sdsearch Jun 30, 2015 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by travelfreaks (Post 25046606)
It is very easy to earn well into 6 figures of miles per month, plus $$$$, without even earning a single sign up bonus.


Originally Posted by joer1212 (Post 25047165)
If it exists, I haven't heard of it.

There's a whole forum dedicated to doing it:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...-spending-719/


But I wouldn't necessarily agree that Manufactured Spending (MS) in high monthly amounts is "very easy", especially for someone who doesn't live anywhere near a Wal-Mart. (Many of the techniques are based in part on visiting a Wal-Mart Money Center quite frequently.)

Plus some cards can shut you down if you do too much of it (or "the wrong way"). So the research into which cards tolerate what doesn't seem so "very easy" to me either.

Nor is it as "free" as signing up for cards with waived annual fees. There's typically fees involved (for example, $5.95 for a $500 gift card is about 1%). 100,000 miles in a month sounds nice but if that's $100,000 of MS with 1% of fees, that's still $1000 in fees. It may be less spend-per-mile (and thus less fees-per-mile) with the right cards (some of which may impossible for a churner to get anymore, if they don't have them already, because they're Chase UR cards), but then that requires being near the right office supply stores or whatever. So, again, it doesn't sound so "very easy" for everyone to do.

It may have been a little easier during the original "US Mint" scheme (especially in the early days when most any bank took the coins in), but as time goes on, many of the simpler MS schemes go "poof" and only more complicated schemes take their place.

So it depends on how much you're immersed in each "culture" as to whether it's easier to get large amounts of miles through churning or through MS (or through neither, if you're not up on either culture!).

joer1212 Jun 30, 2015 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by sdsearch (Post 25050153)
There's a whole forum dedicated to doing it:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...-spending-719/


But I wouldn't necessarily agree that Manufactured Spending (MS) in high monthly amounts is "very easy", especially for someone who doesn't live anywhere near a Wal-Mart. (Many of the techniques are based in part on visiting a Wal-Mart Money Center quite frequently.)

Plus some cards can shut you down if you do too much of it (or "the wrong way"). So the research into which cards tolerate what doesn't seem so "very easy" to me either.

Nor is it as "free" as signing up for cards with waived annual fees. There's typically fees involved (for example, $5.95 for a $500 gift card is about 1%). 100,000 miles in a month sounds nice but if that's $100,000 of MS with 1% of fees, that's still $1000 in fees. It may be less spend-per-mile (and thus less fees-per-mile) with the right cards (some of which may impossible for a churner to get anymore, if they don't have them already, because they're Chase UR cards), but then that requires being near the right office supply stores or whatever. So, again, it doesn't sound so "very easy" for everyone to do.

It may have been a little easier during the original "US Mint" scheme (especially in the early days when most any bank took the coins in), but as time goes on, many of the simpler MS schemes go "poof" and only more complicated schemes take their place.

So it depends on how much you're immersed in each "culture" as to whether it's easier to get large amounts of miles through churning or through MS (or through neither, if you're not up on either culture!).

Exactly what I suspected, thanks.
I've always instinctively known that getting bonuses is, by far, the easiest, cheapest and most efficient way to rack up miles. And the fact that the cc companies are making it much harder to get these bonuses confirms this, otherwise, they wouldn't even care.


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