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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by UnitedFlyGuy
Different banks/lenders pull different bureaus. Some pull all, some only one or two.
Originally Posted by MarkMColo
Yes, and that is a great thing. In my case, Chase and Citi generally pull Equifax, Amex and Bank of America pull Experian, and Barclays pulls Transunion. You should learn who pulls where and factor this into your churn plan.
Ohhh I see, great info for a newb! Thanks to the both of ya!
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 12:03 pm
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It's highly dependent on geography. Barclays tend to pull TU regardless. In my area, Chase and Citi pull Experian.

You can get a good idea of which credit report is pulled using this database.

http://creditboards.com/forums/index...pp=creditpulls


Usually, only 1 credit report is pulled per app. Capital One pulls all 3 major. Citi and Chase sometimes will pull 2.

As previously mentioned, hard inquiries stay on your reports for 2 years. Damage to FICO usually 15-20 points if you do multiple apps in short span. Negative impact diminishes significantly by 6 months. Some creditors (Barclays and credit unions) are more averse to inquiries.

When doing app-o-ramas, target the creditors to spread the inquiries across different bureaus.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by iliopsoas
It's highly dependent on geography. Barclays tend to pull TU regardless. In my area, Chase and Citi pull Experian.

You can get a good idea of which credit report is pulled using this database.

http://creditboards.com/forums/index...pp=creditpulls


Usually, only 1 credit report is pulled per app. Capital One pulls all 3 major. Citi and Chase sometimes will pull 2.

As previously mentioned, hard inquiries stay on your reports for 2 years. Damage to FICO usually 15-20 points if you do multiple apps in short span. Negative impact diminishes significantly by 6 months. Some creditors (Barclays and credit unions) are more averse to inquiries.

When doing app-o-ramas, target the creditors to spread the inquiries across different bureaus.
Very good info, Iliopsoas! OT, but you a PT?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by SuperKirby
Very good info, Iliopsoas! OT, but you a PT?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by iliopsoas
It's highly dependent on geography. Barclays tend to pull TU regardless. In my area, Chase and Citi pull Experian.

You can get a good idea of which credit report is pulled using this database.

http://creditboards.com/forums/index...pp=creditpulls


Usually, only 1 credit report is pulled per app. Capital One pulls all 3 major. Citi and Chase sometimes will pull 2.

As previously mentioned, hard inquiries stay on your reports for 2 years. Damage to FICO usually 15-20 points if you do multiple apps in short span. Negative impact diminishes significantly by 6 months. Some creditors (Barclays and credit unions) are more averse to inquiries.

When doing app-o-ramas, target the creditors to spread the inquiries across different bureaus.
I'm from the bay too and yes, Chase defaults to EX here. However it is possible to freeze EX and ask a credit analyst to pull a different report. I have successfully gotten them to pull EQ.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 5:29 pm
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So difficult.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hard+pull+credit+report
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Calipso
Forget Hard vs Soft pull's, that link was so cool i'm just gonna play with lmgtfy.com all day. lol


Originally Posted by flowfaster
I'm from the bay too and yes, Chase defaults to EX here. However it is possible to freeze EX and ask a credit analyst to pull a different report. I have successfully gotten them to pull EQ.
Thanks for the info..
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 7:18 pm
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For EQ and TU, there is a trick where you can "bump" the hard inquiries off your reports before the 2 years.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 8:19 pm
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Originally Posted by iliopsoas
For EQ and TU, there is a trick where you can "bump" the hard inquiries off your reports before the 2 years.
go on...
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by iliopsoas
For EQ and TU, there is a trick where you can "bump" the hard inquiries off your reports before the 2 years.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by iliopsoas
For EQ and TU, there is a trick where you can "bump" the hard inquiries off your reports before the 2 years.
B* hasn't worked for TU in a few years. Stop spreading disinformation. It still works for EQ.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Calipso
B* hasn't worked for TU in a few years. Stop spreading disinformation. It still works for EQ.
more info please
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 9:47 pm
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http://www.relentlessfinancialimprov...ries-from.html

is this accurate info?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Calipso
B* hasn't worked for TU in a few years. Stop spreading disinformation. It still works for EQ.

Are you sure about that? I just bumped a bunch of inquiries off my EQ and TU reports recently.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by g8trgr8t

Yes, that's accurate.

For TU, use SmartCredit Premium and/or TransunionPlus. You need 65 instead of 85 hard/soft total.

Some people have argued that bumpage doesn't work with TU because all the inquiries remain on your TU Enhanced reports. However, when creditors pull your reports, they don't see that information from your enhanced report. Some disagreement exists here but I'm in the camp that says it works.

However, note that other companies such as Advanced Resolution Services (ARS) keep track of the # of credit applications you've had and sell them to banks. So despite B*, sometimes banks will know how many applications and inquiries you've had any way.
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