Questions about credit inquiries (pulls)
#106
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Pull a free credit report for yourself and provide it with the application. That might circumvent the need for another.
Also, you should just pay the background check/credit pull fee for your top choice apartment, not just any apartment you've looked at.
Also, you should just pay the background check/credit pull fee for your top choice apartment, not just any apartment you've looked at.
#107
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I had printed my credit score (from a temporary CitiBuilder promo!), by chance, right before appllying for my apartment a few weeks ago, and that score being very good was all I needed (plus long time at previous apartment and long time at my current job may have helped them not care about anything more).
#108
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Most apartments are more interested in negative information such as chargeoffs, evictions, etc. Of course, having adequate income to pay the rent is quite important.
If your scores are high, you should have no problems.
If your scores are high, you should have no problems.
#111
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Are employer/landlord credit checks hard pulls?
My employers pull was not, but my last landlord was.
I also had an issue when I was just out of college with my first landlord where's they used my free credit reports instead of paying for a service. Suffice to say, that experience ended pretty shadily.
I also had an issue when I was just out of college with my first landlord where's they used my free credit reports instead of paying for a service. Suffice to say, that experience ended pretty shadily.
#112
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#113
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Employer pulls are supposed to be soft. There are also other places they may look besides credit, including Lexis-Nexus and for-pay services that provide pre-populated amalgamated records. If they use these services, there might not even be a soft pull.
On the Landlord (LL) side:
The credit report request can be legitimate, because landlords want to get paid. They have bills too.
There's also a chance that a prospective LL may not get anywhere near your credit report:
The credit report request can be just a screening tool. It can scare off people with poor payment histories from even applying. The same technique can be used by employers to screen out the 'irresponsible.'
Some landlords do not want to get involved with handling the personal information on the credit report and/or do want to pay to pull the report on their own, which is why they ask the prospective tenant to provide their own copy.
When they do use it, it can be used to do things the LL can't otherwise do legally. For example, some landlords do not want to rent to young people, so they request the credit report because most young adults will have thin files and it's used as a reason to deny renting. Instead of illegal age discrimination. You can suspect this if after they meet you: "You seem like a nice person. I don't need to see your credit report." and you didn't do any Jedi mind tricks.
I probably don't need to say this, but having them take your information and plug it into annualcreditreport.com or similar, probably will not end well. Run. (Tell them you already used up your one free one.) If the LL does a legitimate CR pull, you should see it on your credit report.
And on the bright side, maybe they will pull only one bureau.
On the Landlord (LL) side:
The credit report request can be legitimate, because landlords want to get paid. They have bills too.
There's also a chance that a prospective LL may not get anywhere near your credit report:
The credit report request can be just a screening tool. It can scare off people with poor payment histories from even applying. The same technique can be used by employers to screen out the 'irresponsible.'
Some landlords do not want to get involved with handling the personal information on the credit report and/or do want to pay to pull the report on their own, which is why they ask the prospective tenant to provide their own copy.
When they do use it, it can be used to do things the LL can't otherwise do legally. For example, some landlords do not want to rent to young people, so they request the credit report because most young adults will have thin files and it's used as a reason to deny renting. Instead of illegal age discrimination. You can suspect this if after they meet you: "You seem like a nice person. I don't need to see your credit report." and you didn't do any Jedi mind tricks.
I probably don't need to say this, but having them take your information and plug it into annualcreditreport.com or similar, probably will not end well. Run. (Tell them you already used up your one free one.) If the LL does a legitimate CR pull, you should see it on your credit report.
And on the bright side, maybe they will pull only one bureau.
#114
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,386
This has been my experience as well.
You can always ask, not only whether it's hard but also which bureau. A good HR person will understand the concern. Also with employment I'd only agree to it towards the end of the process.
You can always ask, not only whether it's hard but also which bureau. A good HR person will understand the concern. Also with employment I'd only agree to it towards the end of the process.
#115
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Pre-closing Mortgage soft credit pulls now daily before close? Impacts on AoR's?
http://bostonherald.com/business/rea...o_the_closings
The article suggests Equifax may have a program that your mortgage lender can use to place you on a 'watch list' and if your habits start to look 'funny', they may notify the prospective lender.
It may be an alternative form of a credit monitoring service, where instead of EQ monitoring your credit and letting you know about inquiries and score changes, EQ monitors your credit to tell someone else. If you read the fine print of a CC agreement or Loan application, you have probably already given permission.
No information on actual uptake of the program -- Speculation: the story could be worked up from a Equifax PR piece for a new service that EQ is offering.
Besides mortgages, there might be a potential AoR implication in the future. If could be a good thing if it allows a computer to approve a marginal application, since they have more information, or it could end AoR's as currently known. Might also be used for non-instant approvals. You apply, they wait a few days, look for alerts. If none, you get approved. If it appears you are doing an AoR, maybe you don't.
Does TU/EX follow? (have they already?)
But be aware: If you are applying for a mortgage in the coming weeks, you can be sure that your credit will be checked and re-checked — possibly monitored daily — to make certain no hints of new debts pop up before you close on the loan
It may be an alternative form of a credit monitoring service, where instead of EQ monitoring your credit and letting you know about inquiries and score changes, EQ monitors your credit to tell someone else. If you read the fine print of a CC agreement or Loan application, you have probably already given permission.
No information on actual uptake of the program -- Speculation: the story could be worked up from a Equifax PR piece for a new service that EQ is offering.
Besides mortgages, there might be a potential AoR implication in the future. If could be a good thing if it allows a computer to approve a marginal application, since they have more information, or it could end AoR's as currently known. Might also be used for non-instant approvals. You apply, they wait a few days, look for alerts. If none, you get approved. If it appears you are doing an AoR, maybe you don't.
Does TU/EX follow? (have they already?)
#116
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Equifax has been getting a lot of information according to another article I read, including pay stubs, if you've ever filed for unemployment, etc. They have much more information than we wish they had....
#118
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: US
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24/7 high frequency credit monitoring with the results going to someone you don't have an open tradeline with yet?
That seems new.
#119
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 130
Hard inquiry from DirectTV, never signed up for service
Sorry if this is incorrect place for this thread.
So on 8/4/13, I got a hard inquiry from DirectTV. I don't remember signing up for DirectTV. Though there was one promotion to sign up for emails to receive Southwest sometimes last month?
Anybody else got a hit from DirectTV? Can I dispute this?
Thanks.
So on 8/4/13, I got a hard inquiry from DirectTV. I don't remember signing up for DirectTV. Though there was one promotion to sign up for emails to receive Southwest sometimes last month?
Anybody else got a hit from DirectTV? Can I dispute this?
Thanks.