Proof of vaccination - CDC card alternatives
Sep 20, 2021, 5:34 am
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Proof of vaccination - CDC card alternatives
I seem to have misplaced my CDC card with my Covid vaccination records. Locally, I exclusively use the New York State Excelsior Pass, which is well understood here and pulls digital records from the NY database. I can also print out verification from the City. However, I do have a few questions
1) does anyone have any experience in using one state’s vaccine passport app / system in another state? For example, has anyone use an Excelsior Pass type platform in California or other states that require vaccination to enter certain venues?
2) Are non CDC card verification methods accepted for international travel?
1) does anyone have any experience in using one state’s vaccine passport app / system in another state? For example, has anyone use an Excelsior Pass type platform in California or other states that require vaccination to enter certain venues?
2) Are non CDC card verification methods accepted for international travel?
Sep 20, 2021, 6:16 am
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Can you get Excelsior Pass Plus? Digital cards initiatives in the US - CA, HI, LA, NY Excelsior Pass Plus, VA, some major chain pharmacies and few hospital systems all issue Smart Health Cards and is tied to CommonHealth and CommonPass. Each digital card can be verified by the Smart Health Verifier app. (The verifier app is extremely buggy and annoying to use but that is a different story). Each of the state/pharmacy chain issued digital card can be saved as a PDF or imported in CommonHealth app or the state's own app. I have no idea if California requires vaccine proof for anything but it should be able to verify a Smart Health card.
For international travel you probably need a CDC card just to be safe. Maybe go back to the site where you got your shots and they will issue a replacement card?
For international travel you probably need a CDC card just to be safe. Maybe go back to the site where you got your shots and they will issue a replacement card?
Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 pm
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Can you get Excelsior Pass Plus? Digital cards initiatives in the US - CA, HI, LA, NY Excelsior Pass Plus, VA, some major chain pharmacies and few hospital systems all issue Smart Health Cards and is tied to CommonHealth and CommonPass. Each digital card can be verified by the Smart Health Verifier app. (The verifier app is extremely buggy and annoying to use but that is a different story). Each of the state/pharmacy chain issued digital card can be saved as a PDF or imported in CommonHealth app or the state's own app. I have no idea if California requires vaccine proof for anything but it should be able to verify a Smart Health card.
For international travel you probably need a CDC card just to be safe. Maybe go back to the site where you got your shots and they will issue a replacement card?
For international travel you probably need a CDC card just to be safe. Maybe go back to the site where you got your shots and they will issue a replacement card?
) I'm sure this "super" card would be acceptable outside the USA--the CDC card has NO QR code attached and is all handwritten mostly by scribblers
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Sep 20, 2021, 3:25 pm
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Do you have a picture of your CDC card? If yes, you can read the threads about converting it to French/EU or Swiss pass - which is digital and accepted for international travel.
Outside that, you'll really need a replacement CDC card for international travel, even if it means getting a J&J shot again. This is the downside of US not having a federal system, if you lose your cdc card and can't get a replacement, you'll need another shot just to travel somewhere which requires original documentation to be presented as proof (e.g. if you're going to Saudi or Pakistan etc, where only original cards will be accepted as proof).
Outside that, you'll really need a replacement CDC card for international travel, even if it means getting a J&J shot again. This is the downside of US not having a federal system, if you lose your cdc card and can't get a replacement, you'll need another shot just to travel somewhere which requires original documentation to be presented as proof (e.g. if you're going to Saudi or Pakistan etc, where only original cards will be accepted as proof).
Sep 20, 2021, 5:49 pm
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Do you have a picture of your CDC card? If yes, you can read the threads about converting it to French/EU or Swiss pass - which is digital and accepted for international travel.
Outside that, you'll really need a replacement CDC card for international travel, even if it means getting a J&J shot again. This is the downside of US not having a federal system, if you lose your cdc card and can't get a replacement, you'll need another shot just to travel somewhere which requires original documentation to be presented as proof (e.g. if you're going to Saudi or Pakistan etc, where only original cards will be accepted as proof).
Outside that, you'll really need a replacement CDC card for international travel, even if it means getting a J&J shot again. This is the downside of US not having a federal system, if you lose your cdc card and can't get a replacement, you'll need another shot just to travel somewhere which requires original documentation to be presented as proof (e.g. if you're going to Saudi or Pakistan etc, where only original cards will be accepted as proof).
Sep 20, 2021, 6:39 pm
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In California, we can look up our vaccination record with the website you book the shot through.
Sep 20, 2021, 7:18 pm
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A more immediate question may be does digital proof of vaccination in one state work for other states for purposes of mandates for dining, events, etc…
Sep 20, 2021, 7:21 pm
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Do you have a picture of your CDC card? If yes, you can read the threads about converting it to French/EU or Swiss pass - which is digital and accepted for international travel.
Outside that, you'll really need a replacement CDC card for international travel, even if it means getting a J&J shot again. This is the downside of US not having a federal system, if you lose your cdc card and can't get a replacement, you'll need another shot just to travel somewhere which requires original documentation to be presented as proof (e.g. if you're going to Saudi or Pakistan etc, where only original cards will be accepted as proof).
Outside that, you'll really need a replacement CDC card for international travel, even if it means getting a J&J shot again. This is the downside of US not having a federal system, if you lose your cdc card and can't get a replacement, you'll need another shot just to travel somewhere which requires original documentation to be presented as proof (e.g. if you're going to Saudi or Pakistan etc, where only original cards will be accepted as proof).
Sep 20, 2021, 8:17 pm
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I seem to have misplaced my CDC card with my Covid vaccination records. Locally, I exclusively use the New York State Excelsior Pass, which is well understood here and pulls digital records from the NY database. I can also print out verification from the City. However, I do have a few questions
1) does anyone have any experience in using one state’s vaccine passport app / system in another state? For example, has anyone use an Excelsior Pass type platform in California or other states that require vaccination to enter certain venues?
2) Are non CDC card verification methods accepted for international travel?
1) does anyone have any experience in using one state’s vaccine passport app / system in another state? For example, has anyone use an Excelsior Pass type platform in California or other states that require vaccination to enter certain venues?
2) Are non CDC card verification methods accepted for international travel?
Sep 21, 2021, 4:13 am
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In addition to the CDC card, my hospital/octor uses EPIC - which has an app and all my immunizations are stored there digitally - it isn't official for anything other than it IS my medical record - but so far no one has questioned it.
My CDC card stays with my passport and that means I don't carry it with me day to day, so I have used the digital version for random US travels when needed.
My CDC card stays with my passport and that means I don't carry it with me day to day, so I have used the digital version for random US travels when needed.
Sep 21, 2021, 5:13 am
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Can you get Excelsior Pass Plus? Digital cards initiatives in the US - CA, HI, LA, NY Excelsior Pass Plus, VA, some major chain pharmacies and few hospital systems all issue Smart Health Cards and is tied to CommonHealth and CommonPass. Each digital card can be verified by the Smart Health Verifier app. (The verifier app is extremely buggy and annoying to use but that is a different story). Each of the state/pharmacy chain issued digital card can be saved as a PDF or imported in CommonHealth app or the state's own app. I have no idea if California requires vaccine proof for anything but it should be able to verify a Smart Health card.
For international travel you probably need a CDC card just to be safe. Maybe go back to the site where you got your shots and they will issue a replacement card?
For international travel you probably need a CDC card just to be safe. Maybe go back to the site where you got your shots and they will issue a replacement card?
Sep 21, 2021, 5:14 am
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I've been travelling through europe this summer, and flashing the cdc card instantly works without people even checking it closely because everyone is familiar with it now. Showing anything else will result in hassle, denial of service randomly by the waiter who isn't familiar and so on.
Sep 22, 2021, 5:05 pm
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Apple is introducing in iOS 15.1 digital vaccination records using the SMART Health Card specification.
https://9to5mac.com/2021/09/21/covid...allet-details/
https://smarthealth.cards/faq.html
So it's an attempt to have a specification which can be used by anyone. However, it appears to come from an American source so probably won't be accepted outside the US, especially in Europe.
Or for that matter, it seems unlikely to be widely accepted in the US. But if Google as well as Apple both support it, maybe it would help gain adoption. I guess there needs to be an app that would scan the QR codes and authenticate them.
https://9to5mac.com/2021/09/21/covid...allet-details/
https://smarthealth.cards/faq.html
So it's an attempt to have a specification which can be used by anyone. However, it appears to come from an American source so probably won't be accepted outside the US, especially in Europe.
Or for that matter, it seems unlikely to be widely accepted in the US. But if Google as well as Apple both support it, maybe it would help gain adoption. I guess there needs to be an app that would scan the QR codes and authenticate them.
Sep 22, 2021, 5:11 pm
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It does. It is the Smart Health Card Verifier app I posted above. Smart Health was actually developed Boston Children's hospital and tied in with the Commons Project. Google Pay works differently than Apple Wallet but Samsung Pay supports Smart Health Card. CommonHealth app on other Android devices can store Smart Health cards. I posted this in the Covid Test/Entry thread.
P.S.: While I posted the verifier app is buggy above, I must add that the developers are quite responsive.
P.S.: While I posted the verifier app is buggy above, I must add that the developers are quite responsive.
Sep 23, 2021, 8:54 am
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Well I found my card, so I guess that solves that
I will add the Apple digital verification system when I donwload iOS 15
I will add the Apple digital verification system when I donwload iOS 15