Often1

Presumably you've worked that out before you travel to a location where a highly contagious and potentially fatal disease is rampant.

Certainly not board a commercial aircraft and run the risk of infecting the passengers & crew and the people those folks come into contact with.

All considerations one needs to make before one travels to a location.

nas6034

So land / water borders still good?

I guess people could fly to the closest US land border and enter overland.

nomiiiii

Frankly I fiind it mind-boggling that anyone supports these requirements which have a very obvious and immidiate impact of pushing millions of people in Mexico and Carriibean into deep poverty, hunger, starvation and likely death due to unrest.

Anyone who supports these testing policies needs to accept the fact that they also support the complete ruin of their less fortunate neighbors.

destone

Food for thought: the "millions of people" (1.96m to be exact) you talk about have died because of Covid-19, and not because of Covid-19 testing requirements.

nomiiiii

Yes, and as opposed to the extra 2 million deaths of mostly old people guess how many children have died due to virus-related restrictions leading to hunger? This article in July already had the number of children dead or starving pegged at around 7 million - this is just children, add in entire families of young folks and there is no comparison between the suffering of those who actually got covid vs the suffering of those being impacted by the restrictions https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...08f4e7b4965cbd

It should be absolutely clear that if someone supports virus-related restrictions specially on frivolous consumption and international travel of rich predominantly white nations, they also support the death, starvation, deep poverty and suffering of disadvantaged black and brown communities worldwide.

destone

Do you genuinely believe that more Covid-19 cases will contribute to the well-being of said families?

nomiiiii

The world is not black and white and at times harsh choices do need to be made. If the alternative is certain starvation and death, then yes, it will be better to take your chances with a virus that has a 99%+ survival rate for tourism dependent economies. There is a reason why all the poor countries have basically no social distancing or rules when you visit them - the informal market sectors there cannot bear the cost of lockdowns and restrictions.

The problem heere is that US is the one making the decisons, but the impact will be more felt to its neighboring countries. So US lawmakers don't care, because unfortunately the average US citizen does not care about the wellbeing of their neighboring countries.

Covid is a disease that only the privileged few can afford to keep themselves locked away from.

Do you really believe that getting covid and taking your chances is worse than certain poverty and starvation. If you visited any of these countries in 2020 you would've seen how famiiies have been destroyed and starving due to covid restrictions.

destone

I don't know what else to say to you. We're going off-topic. Maybe tour your nearest ICU for a reality check.

invisible

Here in Singapore you can’t enter any building/premises without carrying Bluetooth token and scanning a QR code. Just saying.

azepine00

but the reality is that ICUs will only get worse when those who plan to travel international will switch to domestic and socializing with others at home.. it's naive to think that people will lock themselves at home instead of flying somewhere...

we got back from xmas travel to find several kid's classmates out either with the bug or quarantining as they were hanging out, playing sports and studying together... our kids otoh never got anywhere close to anyone while vacationing..

azepine00

common sense suggests that by trying to avoid the other bug we pretty much eliminated typical flu spread pathways?

destone

Check your facts: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

destone

It's a global pandemic. No one should be flying just for the sake of it. If you have an "essential" trip, sure, but the scenario you suggested doesn't imply "essential".

If you can afford to travel in a global pandemic, you can afford to get tested. Simple as that.

axck

flight back from DC pretty smooth?

axck

Considering he thinks the CDC’s covid death tolls are fake, I doubt he cares about “facts”. Try “opinions” and “feelings”, maybe?