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International travel document verification by airlines?

Old Jul 4, 20, 11:58 am
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Question International travel document verification by airlines?

Upon airport check in for a flight to Western Europe during present caronavirus restrictions, AA will request to see your European passport or residence permit?

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Old Jul 4, 20, 2:28 pm
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Yes, for us, at LGA, flying to DFW and then on to CDG, they absolutely did, they only authorized my US citizen spouse to check in after a lengthy verification to ensure he is allowed to fly with me, which included checking our certificate of marriage. They were friendly and thorough.
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Old Jul 4, 20, 3:09 pm
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No different than it has always been. You will be required to present all documents required for admission to your destination (and if applicable, transit). Several threads here from people who showed up at a US departure airport lacking proper documents (some of whom were not eligible to obtain the documents). These will include the certificate issued by the consulate of your destination country as well as information regarding your whereabouts for your mandatory quarantine/isolation.

All of the information is contained in TIMATIC if you enter the proper data.
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Old Jul 4, 20, 8:07 pm
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Is online check-in (OLCI) currently blocked for international itineraries, given the need for airport agents to verify documents manually?
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Old Jul 5, 20, 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by worldwidetraveler View Post
Upon airport check in for a flight to Western Europe during present caronavirus restrictions, AA will request to see your European passport or residence permit?
Even if flying to Serbia? We are flying DFW-CDG-BEG in 2 weeks, where neither a European passport or residence permit is required........
TIMATIC says "Regulations related to Coronavirus (COVID-19) have been lifted."
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Old Jul 5, 20, 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by mvoight View Post
Even if flying to Serbia? We are flying DFW-CDG-BEG in 2 weeks, where neither a European passport or residence permit is required........
TIMATIC says "Regulations related to Coronavirus (COVID-19) have been lifted."
That is true for Serbia. Transiting France is a seperate issue.

" Warning:
A completed International Travel Certificate must be presented prior to boarding and to Immigration upon arrival or when transiting France. The certificate must be obtained before departure via the French consular offices abroad or online at https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...t-et-de-voyage."

The link is in French. It appears you will need to get a certificate to transit through France. If you don't have authourization prior, I anticipate you will be denied boarding in the US. I would do a little research to make sure you aren't disappointed.

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That is true for Serbia. Transiting France is a seperate issue.

" Warning:
A completed International Travel Certificate must be presented prior to boarding and to Immigration upon arrival or when transiting France. The certificate must be obtained before departure via the French consular offices abroad or online at https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...t-et-de-voyage."

The link is in French. It appears you will need to get a certificate to transit through France. If you don't have authourization prior, I anticipate you will be denied boarding in the US. I would do a little research to make sure you aren't disappointed.

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Actually, the page is in French and English
Additionally, the parisareoport.fr website indicates you need the form or a written statement.
It is something you print out, fill in, and sign. It doesn't require any government certification
And, this part is easy "[ ] Third country nationals, transiting less than 24 hours in an international area to reach their country of origin and who are holders of a travel document to this country;" We are actually flying DFW-AMS-BEG-CDG-DFW. (And Holland has also has a self certifying document.)
TIMATIC also indicates travel to France requires the certification document, but not transit.
(I checked both as a destination and as a transit)
Interestingly enough, according to TIMATIC, wife needs a visa to go back to the US, which is not true if you are a Permanent Resident

***********************************************

Visa

Visa required.

Visa Exemptions:

Passengers with an Authorization for Parole of an Alien into the United States (Form I-512).
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Originally Posted by ESpen36 View Post
Is online check-in (OLCI) currently blocked for international itineraries, given the need for airport agents to verify documents manually?
Document verification for TATL travel can be done even without blocking all OLCI for TATL travel.
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Originally Posted by worldwidetraveler View Post
Upon airport check in for a flight to Western Europe during present caronavirus restrictions, AA will request to see your European passport or residence permit?
There is always a passport check for an international flight.
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Old Jul 5, 20, 6:15 am
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Even if flying to Serbia? We are flying DFW-CDG-BEG in 2 weeks, where neither a European passport or residence permit is required........
TIMATIC says "Regulations related to Coronavirus (COVID-19) have been lifted."
Yes they want to check you can enter all countries on your trip. Airlines can be and are fined if they have flown someone who is then denied entry into a country.

Even if you had a domestic leg on your itinnerary AA would check your docs at your starting point and deny you boarding if they are not up to snuff.

This is long term and usual practice and not related to covid.
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It also does not say that a citizen requires a visa.

That is because both citizens and LPR's have a right of entry under all circumstances.

Do check the quarantine requirements on return to the US.
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Originally Posted by mvoight View Post
Even if flying to Serbia? We are flying DFW-CDG-BEG in 2 weeks, where neither a European passport or residence permit is required........
TIMATIC says "Regulations related to Coronavirus (COVID-19) have been lifted."
Originally Posted by mvoight View Post
We are actually flying DFW-AMS-BEG-CDG-DFW. (And Holland has also has a self certifying document.) TIMATIC also indicates travel to France requires the certification document, but not transit. (I checked both as a destination and as a transit) Interestingly enough, according to TIMATIC, wife needs a visa to go back to the US, which is not true if you are a Permanent Resident
Many of us on FlyerTalk are willing & happy to help out with a question. It does, however, make it difficult when the question doesn't provide enough information to be correctly answered. You are not, in fact, flying DFW-CDG-BEG as you first indicated. Without providing nationality or PR status, by default, there is an inference of nationality correlating to the country of airport departure.

It seems that you have it all figured out anyway so I am not sure your need to pose the question in the first place. But, hey, enjoy your vacation on whatever routing it really is.

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Old Jul 5, 20, 4:04 pm
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This isn’t really airline specific (airlines follow IATA TIMATIC information to determine who will be allowed to fly internationally), so it will me moved to the proper forum.

link to United Airlines’ TIMATICWEB page. Enter your information to determine what requirements you must meet to be allowed to fly by the airline’s personnel.

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Old Jul 6, 20, 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by mvoight View Post
Even if flying to Serbia? We are flying DFW-CDG-BEG in 2 weeks, where neither a European passport or residence permit is required........
TIMATIC says "Regulations related to Coronavirus (COVID-19) have been lifted."

Serbia's capital declares state of emergency over rising COVID-19 cases

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN24416T
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Old Jul 8, 20, 1:23 pm
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Yes they want to check you can enter all countries on your trip. Airlines can be and are fined if they have flown someone who is then denied entry into a country.

Even if you had a domestic leg on your itinnerary AA would check your docs at your starting point and deny you boarding if they are not up to snuff.

This is long term and usual practice and not related to covid.
Is their a good source about how airlines are fined for letting passengers on flights where they're not supposed to? Like the original source documents? I read everywhere about $10,000 fines, but can't seem to find the legislation/regulation that states this, and would imagine it would be different depending on destination and circumstances.

Thanks!
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