Crossing USA / Canada Border During COVID
#106
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Texas
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My preference would be to be truthful with the agent and emphasize my rights as a citizen. The Order in Council and related COVID documents are quite clear in my opinion.
UPDATE:
A few minutes ago I spoke to a CBSA agent at their call center. He confirmed that I can enter Canada at any time and for any reason, including vacation. He also indicated, that which I already knew, that it's much better to be truthful at the border and tell them the whole story and this is what I intend to do.
UPDATE:
A few minutes ago I spoke to a CBSA agent at their call center. He confirmed that I can enter Canada at any time and for any reason, including vacation. He also indicated, that which I already knew, that it's much better to be truthful at the border and tell them the whole story and this is what I intend to do.
Part I, Section 6.1 of the Constitution Act of 1982 states "Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada."
I think that should settle the matter.
#107
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
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Posts: 754
What is strange, though, when I entered last October as a Canadian citizen the border agent asked the purposes of my trip and how long I would be staying. Irrelevant?
#108
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I always assumed it is a screener question for further processing. If I said "I am moving to Canada to start a job here" then they may ask follow-up questions about unaccompanied goods etc. . But they certainly couldn't say "no, you're not allowed."
#109
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As a Canadian living abroad, I get that question often, pre-Covid and now. I have no problem with it, nor do they with my answers.
I always assumed it is a screener question for further processing. If I said "I am moving to Canada to start a job here" then they may ask follow-up questions about unaccompanied goods etc. But they certainly couldn't say "no, you're not allowed."
I always assumed it is a screener question for further processing. If I said "I am moving to Canada to start a job here" then they may ask follow-up questions about unaccompanied goods etc. But they certainly couldn't say "no, you're not allowed."
#110
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SEA
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Posts: 153
Now that Canada is allowing fully vaxxed citizens and PRs to skip quarantine, I decided to test everything out and went for a mileage run. Drove from Vancouver to SEA, flew SEA-DOH-ATH, ATH-FRA, FRA-SEA, attempted to drive back to Canada.
CBSA was not happy. I knew there might be an issue with my COVID test (got a negative PCR test the day before I left Germany), but didn’t expect hostility. Border guards didn’t believe my reason for travel, and I got sent to secondary for additional search and interrogation. They ultimately said I could enter Canada, but I’d have to pay a fine of $6500 since my covid test was done in Germany and not the US. Apparently this would have also been the case if I flew FRA-SEA-YVR (according to border guard who said this applies to everyone).
tl;dr: make sure your molecular test is done in the last country you visit or transit through on your way to Canada. I was aware this could have been an issue, and they came down hard. All the guests at my hotel in Bellingham appear to be in similar situations.
CBSA was not happy. I knew there might be an issue with my COVID test (got a negative PCR test the day before I left Germany), but didn’t expect hostility. Border guards didn’t believe my reason for travel, and I got sent to secondary for additional search and interrogation. They ultimately said I could enter Canada, but I’d have to pay a fine of $6500 since my covid test was done in Germany and not the US. Apparently this would have also been the case if I flew FRA-SEA-YVR (according to border guard who said this applies to everyone).
tl;dr: make sure your molecular test is done in the last country you visit or transit through on your way to Canada. I was aware this could have been an issue, and they came down hard. All the guests at my hotel in Bellingham appear to be in similar situations.
#111
Join Date: Jan 2021
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 459
Now that Canada is allowing fully vaxxed citizens and PRs to skip quarantine, I decided to test everything out and went for a mileage run. Drove from Vancouver to SEA, flew SEA-DOH-ATH, ATH-FRA, FRA-SEA, attempted to drive back to Canada.
CBSA was not happy. I knew there might be an issue with my COVID test (got a negative PCR test the day before I left Germany), but didn’t expect hostility. Border guards didn’t believe my reason for travel, and I got sent to secondary for additional search and interrogation. They ultimately said I could enter Canada, but I’d have to pay a fine of $6500 since my covid test was done in Germany and not the US. Apparently this would have also been the case if I flew FRA-SEA-YVR (according to border guard who said this applies to everyone).
tl;dr: make sure your molecular test is done in the last country you visit or transit through on your way to Canada. I was aware this could have been an issue, and they came down hard. All the guests at my hotel in Bellingham appear to be in similar situations.
CBSA was not happy. I knew there might be an issue with my COVID test (got a negative PCR test the day before I left Germany), but didn’t expect hostility. Border guards didn’t believe my reason for travel, and I got sent to secondary for additional search and interrogation. They ultimately said I could enter Canada, but I’d have to pay a fine of $6500 since my covid test was done in Germany and not the US. Apparently this would have also been the case if I flew FRA-SEA-YVR (according to border guard who said this applies to everyone).
tl;dr: make sure your molecular test is done in the last country you visit or transit through on your way to Canada. I was aware this could have been an issue, and they came down hard. All the guests at my hotel in Bellingham appear to be in similar situations.
#112
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 754
I see on the Govt of Canada web site that they accept PCR, qPCR, and RT PCR. My T-72 hour test is a RT-qPCR. It is a molecular swab test processed in a laboratory. Yet I can see border control looking for that on the “list” and not finding it. Any advice?
Update: got through fine, though I can’t say the border agent at YYZ spent much time examining my covid test. I also found out that the in airport covid test has been replaced by a kit that you take home and do yourself under the watchful eye of a nurse on video.
There is so much extra time taken processing each arriving passenger that we were held back in the plane for 30 minutes after arriving at the gate because the arrival hall was overflowing. First the connecting passengers, who must go through the whole process and then re-enter the secure area, were allowed to deplane, but they had to show their connecting boarding pass to get off. Then the rest of us some 20 minutes later. Whole thing took 1.5 hours after arriving at the gate.
Update: got through fine, though I can’t say the border agent at YYZ spent much time examining my covid test. I also found out that the in airport covid test has been replaced by a kit that you take home and do yourself under the watchful eye of a nurse on video.
There is so much extra time taken processing each arriving passenger that we were held back in the plane for 30 minutes after arriving at the gate because the arrival hall was overflowing. First the connecting passengers, who must go through the whole process and then re-enter the secure area, were allowed to deplane, but they had to show their connecting boarding pass to get off. Then the rest of us some 20 minutes later. Whole thing took 1.5 hours after arriving at the gate.
Last edited by economyplusfan; Jul 8, 2021 at 9:53 pm Reason: Update
#113
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 153
“If you have a connecting flight:
- the test must be conducted within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your last direct flight to Canada
- you may need to schedule the test in your transit city”
#114
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YYZ/LHR/SFO/SIN
Programs: AC SE100K
Posts: 282
That’s what I thought as well, but border agent said it applies to visit or transit. So it’s probably up to the discretion of the border agent / YMMV. The website is just vague enough to allow for it:
“If you have a connecting flight:
“If you have a connecting flight:
- the test must be conducted within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your last direct flight to Canada
- you may need to schedule the test in your transit city”
#115
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 153
Nope, just grabbed a cheap hotel in Bellingham and got a last minute PCR test at the county site by the airport (24 hour turnaround). $100-$200 is easier than fighting to get back $6500. I have my work stuff with me, so it’s not a huge inconvenience. And now I know what to expect for future crossings.
#116
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YYZ/LHR/SFO/SIN
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Nope, just grabbed a cheap hotel in Bellingham and got a last minute PCR test at the county site by the airport (24 hour turnaround). $100-$200 is easier than fighting to get back $6500. I have my work stuff with me, so it’s not a huge inconvenience. And now I know what to expect for future crossings.
#117
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https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...getting-tested
If you're driving to land border crossing, you must take a test in the United States within 72 hours of your planned entry into Canada.
If you're flying to Canada, you must take a test within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your flight to Canada. Airlines will refuse boarding to travellers who are unable to provide a valid molecular test result.
- If you have a connecting flight:
- the test must be conducted within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your last direct flight to Canada
- you may need to schedule the test in your transit city
Last edited by Finkface; Jul 7, 2021 at 4:31 pm
#118
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YYZ/LHR/SFO/SIN
Programs: AC SE100K
Posts: 282
If you're driving to land border crossing, you must take a test in the United States within 72 hours of your planned entry into Canada.
If you're flying to Canada, you must take a test within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your flight to Canada. Airlines will refuse boarding to travellers who are unable to provide a valid molecular test result.
If you're flying to Canada, you must take a test within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your flight to Canada. Airlines will refuse boarding to travellers who are unable to provide a valid molecular test result.
- If you have a connecting flight:
- the test must be conducted within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your last direct flight to Canada
- you may need to schedule the test in your transit city
#119
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 57
What would the complaint be? It is totally clear that anyone crossing the land border into Canada needs a molecular test taken IN the US. This isn’t the case with flying but the OP drove across so he wasn’t in compliance. A quick check of the rules would have told him this so what does he have to complain about? Had he flown in and merely connected in the US, as long as the test was taken within 72 hours of the departure time of his last flight into Canada, the test can be taken anywhere except India. That the land border guard told him otherwise was incorrect (maybe he isn’t familiar with the rules for arriving by air) but it didn’t apply to him anyway as he drove across and didn’t have the correct test. So what would he say in his compliant?
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...getting-tested
If you're driving to land border crossing, you must take a test in the United States within 72 hours of your planned entry into Canada.
If you're flying to Canada, you must take a test within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your flight to Canada. Airlines will refuse boarding to travellers who are unable to provide a valid molecular test result.
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...getting-tested
If you're driving to land border crossing, you must take a test in the United States within 72 hours of your planned entry into Canada.
If you're flying to Canada, you must take a test within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your flight to Canada. Airlines will refuse boarding to travellers who are unable to provide a valid molecular test result.
- If you have a connecting flight:
- the test must be conducted within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your last direct flight to Canada
- you may need to schedule the test in your transit city
#120
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 57
Hi everyone,
Do you know if the Emed home test is acceptable for entering Canada? Has anyone tried it?
I plan to visit Canada (entry by land) after they remove quarantine requirements on July 6.
Thank you!
Do you know if the Emed home test is acceptable for entering Canada? Has anyone tried it?
I plan to visit Canada (entry by land) after they remove quarantine requirements on July 6.
Thank you!