Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Coronavirus and travel
Reload this Page >

UK Government announces 14 day quarantine for arrivals

UK Government announces 14 day quarantine for arrivals

Old Apr 26, 20, 1:32 am
  #1  
Moderator: Hyatt Gold Passport & Star Alliance
Original Poster
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: London, UK
Programs: UA-1K 3MM/AA-Ex Plat/HY- LT Globalist/BA-CCR/GGL/GfL
Posts: 10,728
UK Government announces 14 day quarantine for arrivals

Daily Mail today:

Everyone entering the UK will be forced to quarantine for a fortnight under plans being drawn up by the Government. The move follows growing pressure for tighter border controls during the coronavirus crisis and would include UK citizens returning from abroad. Airport bosses have complained that the failure to limit arrivals and check passengers has made a mockery of the lockdown. The Mail on Sunday understands that the plan - similar to one operated by Singapore - was agreed during a meeting of Ministers and officials on Wednesday. Officials were told to look at ways to enforce compliance, including large fines or even criminal prosecution, under powers introduced by the Coronavirus Act.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-plans.html
Owenc likes this.
Markie is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 1:54 am
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berlin, SW Florida, and Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Discovery Black, and assorted others
Posts: 26,466
Why did it take so long?
LondonElite is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 2:09 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New Zealand (when I'm home!)
Programs: Air NZ Elite
Posts: 749
As an outsider, it's genuinely been extremely confusing.

We even had a thread about that engaged couple, 1 in the USA, 1 in Italy, and someone suggested they go live in the UK, since you could waltz in freely, no quarantine.
kiwifrequentflyer is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 2:22 am
  #4  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 11,249
Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
Why did it take so long?
For starter, the PM has been sick due to COVID-19.
garykung is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 2:31 am
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berlin, SW Florida, and Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Discovery Black, and assorted others
Posts: 26,466
Originally Posted by garykung View Post
For starter, the PM has been sick due to COVID-19.
That's probably the least of the reasons. [OMNI comment redacted by mod] But the British system of government doesn't need the PM to make a decision such as this. It should have been imposed a month ago!

Last edited by NewbieRunner; Apr 26, 20 at 4:09 am Reason: OMNI comment redacted
LondonElite is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 2:54 am
  #6  
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Citizen of EMEA
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Marriott LTTitanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 397
An enforced 14 day quarantine will surely see PAX coming to the UK grind to a complete halt other than those still trying to get home. Who is going to book a flight knowing what is to come on arrival.

Having both open borders without any screening and a lockdown in place is a bit like having two sprung leaks in a sinking ship. One leak gets plugged and the other is left. I really hope the authorities have been making good use of the last few weeks with a view to implementing the same kind of airport screening that has proved successful in certain other countries.
Saint4805 is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:12 am
  #7  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berlin, SW Florida, and Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Discovery Black, and assorted others
Posts: 26,466
Originally Posted by Saint4805 View Post
An enforced 14 day quarantine will surely see PAX coming to the UK grind to a complete halt other than those still trying to get home. Who is going to book a flight knowing what is to come on arrival.

Having both open borders without any screening and a lockdown in place is a bit like having two sprung leaks in a sinking ship. One leak gets plugged and the other is left. I really hope the authorities have been making good use of the last few weeks with a view to implementing the same kind of airport screening that has proved successful in certain other countries.
A quarantine should have been imposed ages ago, but it is better late than never. I have my doubts about the effectiveness of these airport tests. Can you point to the success they've had?
GUWonder likes this.
LondonElite is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:26 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Citizen of EMEA
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Marriott LTTitanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 397
Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
A quarantine should have been imposed ages ago, but it is better late than never. I have my doubts about the effectiveness of these airport tests. Can you point to the success they've had?
Just media reports saying that countries such as South Korea and Singapore have included rigorous airport screening as part of their overall contact and trace strategy which has seemingly led to lower deaths per million and a quicker flattening of the curve. I understand that SK were better prepared than most due to their response and learning from SARS. I would imagine that mandatory screening in addition to a mandatory quarantine in itself will make people think twice before even trying to enter the country and thus lower new cases coming into the country.
Saint4805 is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:28 am
  #9  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berlin, SW Florida, and Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Discovery Black, and assorted others
Posts: 26,466
Originally Posted by Saint4805 View Post
Just media reports saying that countries such as South Korea and Singapore have included rigorous airport screening as part of their overall contact and trace strategy which has seemingly led to lower deaths per million and a quicker flattening of the curve. I understand that SK were better prepared than most due to their response and learning from SARS.
If you mean temperature checks on arrival and then hospital/quarantine, etc, then yes, I agree. If you mean Emirates giving Covid-19 tests before travel I'm a bit more sceptical.
LondonElite is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:28 am
  #10  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 11,249
Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
That's probably the least of the reasons.
It is still a reason. AFAICT - the U.K. does not have law or procedures about succession of power. Because there is no one calling the shot at 10 Downing Street, that definitely has slowed down the response (as government lawyers have to study this constitutional crisis).

Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
But the British system of government doesn't need the PM to make a decision such as this. It should have been imposed a month ago!
I know the Home Secretary has discretionary authority. But I am not sure if that authority is large enough to shut down the borders.

Also - I believe that Dominic Raab had hesitated because of the conflict roles. Specifically, he is the Foreign Secretary. If he ordered on behalf of Johnson, he would be overstepping into domestic agenda.
garykung is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:31 am
  #11  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berlin, SW Florida, and Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Discovery Black, and assorted others
Posts: 26,466
I'm not suggesting it has to be that complicated. The cabinet could have decided to restrict travel and impose quarantine. BoJo would have probably signed off on it. But they all just navel-gazed for too long.
LondonElite is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:41 am
  #12  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 11,249
Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
BoJo would have probably signed off on it.
I think one of the problems is the Cabinet was not in contact with BoJo when he was in ICU. And some cabinet members may concern about political and/or legal consequences.
garykung is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:43 am
  #13  
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Citizen of EMEA
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Marriott LTTitanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 397
Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
If you mean temperature checks on arrival and then hospital/quarantine, etc, then yes, I agree. If you mean Emirates giving Covid-19 tests before travel I'm a bit more sceptical.
The countries I cited started with temperature checks on arrival. Airline administered testing was not, to my knowledge, part of these countries' approach.
Saint4805 is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:49 am
  #14  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berlin, SW Florida, and Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Discovery Black, and assorted others
Posts: 26,466
Originally Posted by Saint4805 View Post
The countries I cited started with temperature checks on arrival. Airline administered testing was not, to my knowledge, part of these countries' approach.
Correct. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
LondonElite is offline  
Old Apr 26, 20, 3:54 am
  #15  
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Citizen of EMEA
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Marriott LTTitanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 397
Originally Posted by LondonElite View Post
Correct. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
No harm done
Saint4805 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search Engine: