Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > Travel Health and Fitness > Coronavirus and travel
Reload this Page >

UK arrivals - pre-departure, quarantine and post-arrival [currently no requirements]

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old Jun 4, 2020, 5:57 am
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
Mod note on thread engagement:

A reminder that this thread is about the self-isolation requirements for UK arrivals.

It is a help/Information resource for those travelling or returning to England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland from outside the UK. Let's concentrate on news, questions and answers that are relevant and on-topic and stay away from speculations about the spread of the virus, the performance of politicians and other topics which are more suitable for OMNI.

Please stay within these requirements to avoid issues.

LATEST UPDATES

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-t...virus-covid-19


18 March travel to the UK changes

If you will arrive in the UK from abroad after 4am, Friday 18 March, you do not need to:
  • take any COVID-19 tests before you travel or after you arrive
  • fill in a UK passenger locator form before you travel

This will apply whether you are vaccinated or not.

You also will not need to quarantine when you arrive, in line with current rules.
Other countries still have COVID-19 entry rules in place. You should check travel advice before you travel.
If you will arrive in England before 4am, 18 March, you must follow the current rules as set out in this guidance.

*****

The following historical information is retained for the time being.

The Passenger Locator Form for passengers arriving into the UK can be found here:
https://visas-immigration.service.go...r-locator-form
This can only be completed once you are within 48 hours of arrival in the UK.

Exemption list from quarantine requirements - specific details:
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...k-border-rules

England
Statutory instrument for individual passengers arriving in to England: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/582/contents (this html version is updated, but may not have the very latest updates for Statutory Instruments released in the last few days)

Test to release for England only from 15 December, see post 4776 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32841066-post4776.html

Statutory instrument for transport providers http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2.../contents/made

Scotland
Statutory instrument for individual passengers arriving in to Scotland: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2020/169/contents (this html version is updated)

Wales
Statutory instrument for individual passengers arriving in to Wales: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/wsi/2020/574/contents (this html version is updated) &
Welsh language version: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/wsi/2...0200574_we.pdf

Northern Ireland
Statutory instrument https://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisr/2021/99/contents (this html version is updated)


PRACTICAL GUIDANCE FOR QUICK RELEASE FROM SELF-ISOLATION (based on November 28th updates)
[This section has been moved lower down in the wiki post following the change in self-isolation rule on 7th January 2022[

Any PCR test noted as a UK Government Day 2 test will be accepted for release from self isolation as soon as you get the negative result. If it is any other PCR test (eg "Fit to Fly") and not advertised specifically as a Day 2 test then it won't be valid.

This means that you can:[list]
  • Book a suitable Day 2 PCR test before you travel and use the booking reference for the test on the PLF (Passenger Locator Form).
    • On your day of arrival go to your scheduled test.
      • Proceed to you place of self-isolation and await the result, which will hopefully be same / next day.

        Alternatively:
        • Book any Day 2 PCR test before you travel even if you do not intend to use this test, and use the booking reference for the test on the PLF to ensure entry to the UK.
          • Note that you are not strictly required to have a PCR booking before arrival, but your carrier might not know that so you run the risk of being denied boarding
          • On your day of arrival (or before end of Day 2) go to a walk-in test centre and take a different test to the one you booked.
            • Proceed to you place of self-isolation and await the result, which will hopefully be same / next day.

        If you are leaving the UK before the end of day 2 then you do not need to take a test, but are required to self-isolate for the duration of your trip (since you do not have a negative result). Also, if you are self-isolating while waiting for a result (and hence have not been informed of a positive result and need to isolate) you may travel to leave the country.

        If you take a test and it is positive for any variant of COVID you will be required to isolate for 10 days from the date of the test.

        Whether you take a test or not you may be contacted by the UK Test and Trace system at any time if it becomes apparent that you have been in contact with another case. This is very unlikely to happen before day 3 if it is in relation to your flight to UK. Depending on the suspected / identified variant for that case and if you are fully-vaccinated by an accepted programme (see below for links to what this means and valid exemptions) :
        • Omnicron or not fully-vaccinated: You will be required to isolated for 10 days, including a bar on travel to leave the country. A negative Day 2 test does not release you from this requirement.
          • Other and fully vaccinated : You will not be required to isolate.

Test Providers for Day 2/8 tests & Day 5 Test to release
This section is for FTers to post their experience with specific providers (good or bad). Keep it brief and to the point. Please mention how the service is provided and your FT name.

DNA Workplace - Postal - Test kits arrived with me on time. Royal Mail slow for return. 5+ days for Day 2 result. #DaveS
DNA Workplace - Postal - Test kits both arrived on time, video of tests required, results by late evening Day 3 and Day 9. #TSE
ExpressTest Gatwick - Drive through - Tested early at 1000 a few times for TTR. Results came through in evening. #DaveS
NowTest - Postal - Day 2 kit arrived on time, day 8 did not. Will update with result arrival times when applicable. #wilsnunn
Collinson - Postal - Day 5 Test to Release kit arrived in time. Results and release by end of day 6. #tjcxx
CTM - Postal - Days 2/8 kits arrived together in time. Both sent results 2 days after posting. #tjcxx
Qured (Oncologica) - Postal -Day 2/8 kits arrived late. Results 3+ days from posting. #Gagravarr
Qured (Oncologica) - Postal - Day 2/8 kits arrived on time. Day 2 result on Day 5 and Day 8 result on Day 10 - happy customer! #EddLegll
Qured (Ocnologica) - Postal - Day 2/8 kits arrived on time. Day 2 result on Day 5 (after bedtime; ironically after my TTR result). #KSVVZ2015
Anglia DNA - Postal - Day 2/8 kits arrived early. (Both were labelled Day2). Results on Day 4 and Day 9. Cheapest on the list at the time, and good service/result. #tjcxx
Qured - Pre-flight test booked and bought through BA. Very efficient service. Highly recommended. #lhrsfo
Randox - Days 2 and 8. Booked two days before return, using BA discount. Kits already arrived on return. Slightly confusing instructions but manageable. Used Randox dropbox and results next day. Good. #lhrsfo
Randox - Day 2 (also used as pre departure test for a London to Milan flight). Used a drop box and results arrived at midnight the next day. #11101
Randox - Day 2 test centre - 2h30 queues outside the test centre in Waterloo. Results of antigen arrived 45 minutes later. #11101
Collinson - Test to Release at LHR T2. Good trip out! Very efficient service and well organised. Used BA discount. Results by end of day. Excellent. #lhrsfo
DAM - Test to Release in Fulham (they have many locations) - the cheapest fast turnaround TTR we have found. They promise 24 hours but in reality me, my wife, and my son (on different days) have received results inside of 12 hours. Very efficient staff as well. Princes outside of Central London as low as 99 GBP. Fulham is 129 GBP. #KSVVZ2015
Boots/Source Bioscience - days 2&8. Both packs sent in the same mail, waiting at the isolation address. Dropped off at postbox at 4pm, result back next day between 4 and 5 pm, very effective. Bought from Boots, 160, but same package sold directly bu Source Bioscience is just 120. Aaargh! Instructions said nasal and throat swabs, did only nasal and marked accordingly, no issues. #WilcoRoger
Collinsons/Stansted walkin TTR - test taken 1:30 pm, email with results 10:10 pm same day If the BA20OFF doesn't work (didn't work for us) there's another discount on the airport's site #WilcoRoger
Ordered Day-2 kit from Chronomics a week before our return for 18.99. Duly dispatched day we were returning to UK, so arrived on day following return. Reasonably simple process to do test and upload -ve result picture. Not sure where +ve result would have led to... #EsherFlyer
Hale Clinic testing centre (near Oxford Circus) - While not the least expensive, appoint schedules are accurate and results returned in promised timeframe. I've used the clinic for Day 2 tests (twice) and antigen test for US (once). I would def utilize again. #ecaarch
Halo at T5 (Sofitel) - Day 2 PCR spit test. Took the test 7pm, results arrived 7am the next day. No queues but a slightly awkward process to follow.

Useful data sources:

New cases per 100k - 7 days: https://covid19.who.int/table
New tests per 1000 - 7 days: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing
Vaccination doses per 100: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
Sequenced samples uploaded to GISAID: https://www.gisaid.org/index.php?id=208
NHS Track & Trace data (positivity rates for arriving passengers are published every three weeks, so if you can't find the data in the current release it will be in one of the previous two) https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...weekly-reports https://assets.publishing.service.go...ut_week_50.ods
UK daily COVID data https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga...827.1594116739
Risk assessment methodology to inform international travel traffic light system
Data informing international travel traffic-light risk assessments


Testing Terminology
Notes which may assist with understanding which tests to use and with "reuse" of UK tests for other countries regulations:
  • LFT: Lateral Flow Test - A rapid antigen test using nasal / throat swab typically performed by the traveler at home, hotel, etc using simple disposable device. Usually tests the "outer shell" of the nucleus (which causes the symptoms and is reasonably stable across variants) and not the "spikes" (which allow new variants to invade more easily), so gives a positive result for many variants. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-...d_antigen_test)
  • PCR: Polymerase Chain Reaction - A laboratory based test which looks at the nucleus of the virus to determine which specific variant it is. After a positive LFT test ("I have some form of COVID") a PCR test ("You have the Gamma variant") allows identification and tracking of new variants to see if they are likely to become a "variant of concern". (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction)
  • NAAT: Nucleic Acid Amplification Test - A general class of laboratory based tests which includes PCR, LAMP, etc tests. (See https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...b/naats.html)
Print Wikipost

UK arrivals - pre-departure, quarantine and post-arrival [currently no requirements]

 
Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 30, 2021, 2:56 pm
  #7246  
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: QF LTG
Posts: 1,200
As a U.K. citizen living abroad can I transit FCO-LHR-PHL with 22hours in London? Would ideally stay with a family member in London. Wouldn’t want to have to buy Day 2/8 testing for just a layover though

EDIT: In case changing airports helps my situation I would be departing LHR at 1:50pm on Day 2
my options inbound are:
11:30am Arrival at LGW on Day 1
12:30pm Arrival at STN on Day 1
4:05pm Arrival at LHR on Day 1

Last edited by PbodyPhoto; Apr 30, 2021 at 3:43 pm
PbodyPhoto is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 3:08 pm
  #7247  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: AA MM, AA EXP; OW Emerald, EK silver
Posts: 929
And now over one week after my Day 2 test (done on day 3 as the testing kit didn't arrive on time) and five days after leaving the UK I still haven't got the results of my test!! The system remains a joke were it not for the exorbitant price and profiteering (not forgetting the still included 20% VAT). Ironically, on my daily government phone calls they wanted to make sure I had taken the test and, after Day 2, what the results were!!
Geordie405, DaveS and wilsnunn like this.
dwugson is online now  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 4:25 pm
  #7248  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Falkirk, Scotland,VS Red, BA Gold, HH Diamond,UK Amex Plat
Programs: Master of the Privy Purse des Muccis
Posts: 17,969
Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
As a U.K. citizen living abroad can I transit FCO-LHR-PHL with 22hours in London? Would ideally stay with a family member in London. Wouldnt want to have to buy Day 2/8 testing for just a layover though

EDIT: In case changing airports helps my situation I would be departing LHR at 1:50pm on Day 2
my options inbound are:
11:30am Arrival at LGW on Day 1
12:30pm Arrival at STN on Day 1
4:05pm Arrival at LHR on Day 1
Hi,

Yes you can stay overnight. You also do not need to pay for the day 2/8 tests. It doesn't matter your arrival airport.

However what is your status for entering the us at present?

Regards
tbs
PbodyPhoto and DaveS like this.
The _Banking_Scot is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 4:38 pm
  #7249  
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: QF LTG
Posts: 1,200
Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot
Hi,

Yes you can stay overnight. You also do not need to pay for the day 2/8 tests. It doesn't matter your arrival airport.

However what is your status for entering the us at present?

Regards
tbs
US Greencard so that isnt a problem. Thanks for confirming I can stay overnight regardless of airport. On the govt website it seemed to suggest I could only overnight landside if changing between ports. Do you think its fine to do LHR-LHR (<24 hours) or am I safer flying in to a different airport?
PbodyPhoto is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 4:48 pm
  #7250  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Falkirk, Scotland,VS Red, BA Gold, HH Diamond,UK Amex Plat
Programs: Master of the Privy Purse des Muccis
Posts: 17,969
Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
US Greencard so that isnt a problem. Thanks for confirming I can stay overnight regardless of airport. On the govt website it seemed to suggest I could only overnight landside if changing between ports. Do you think its fine to do LHR-LHR (<24 hours) or am I safer flying in to a different airport?
hi,

Lhr lhr is fine. Also you could stay 2 days in the uk before going to the us as you do not need the day 3 test as long ad you leave the uk by 2359 on the second day after you arrive in the uk ie your arrival date is day 0.

Regards

Tbs
The _Banking_Scot is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 5:09 pm
  #7251  
HB7
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Exec Club, SIA KrisFlyer, Qantas FF, Emirates Skywards
Posts: 1,850
Originally Posted by SailorTomSparrow
Agreed with what you said however I do not think reciprocity means much these days. Look at US banning all non residents/citizens period from UK, Ireland and Schengen despite them themselves being allowed into UK and Ireland albeit with testing/quarantine and Schengen at least allowing them in for essential/urgent reasons.

One real bugbear of mine with Brexit travel is all the talk in particular from Europe side of reciprocity. EU citizens skip queues at UK airports by using E gates still, and get unlimited 180 day visa free entries to the UK where as UK citizens are banned from E gates and only get this 90/180 day visa. Ultimately reciprocity means nothing so I suspect Spain extending its ban has little to do with whether UK is being reciprocal. It seems silly considering UK is low risk now and will have pent up demand ready to shoot off like a rocket once 17th May arrives.

I still hope and prey the PCR test by day 2 for green list arrivals is reviewed. 3 options in my mind if UK government is serious about helping travel/airline restart. 1 make PCR test free on NHS. 2 instead replace it with the LFD's for free or make antigen possible instead. 3 exempt those vaccinated from the requirement.

I know here we probably biased toward travel/flying and want it easier but vaccines now so good, infections so low in UK and industry been on its knees now for 14 months. Keeping some of most onerous entry restrictions in Europe is going to be a bit unnecessary soon I feel.
Yeh you make some good points. And I really hope cost of testing is brought down or we switch to Antigen testing. With all the success of the vaccines, and how effective they are - I don't see the hold up. If the government actually wants the travel industry to survive, they need to make it possible for them to survive and allow people to travel without the currently extortionist costs of testing. For example for people from amber countries who want an early release - why are three PCR tests needed AS WELL as a pre-departure test???
DaveS and SailorTomSparrow like this.
HB7 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 5:15 pm
  #7252  
HB7
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Exec Club, SIA KrisFlyer, Qantas FF, Emirates Skywards
Posts: 1,850
The DT are reporting that overseas holidays are a go from May 17th:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-light-may-17/

It is behind a paywall, but the crux of the article is this:

The ban on overseas holidays will end on May 17, the Government is set to announce next week, in the first step to reviving foreign travel. It will no longer be illegal to go abroad from that date, meaning summer holidays overseas will be allowed, with a traffic light system for countries to be introduced. Initially only a "tiny handful" of countries are expected to be on the "green list", however, and everyone – even those who have been vaccinated – will have to take a PCR Covid test after returning to Britain. Most European countries are expected to be on the "amber list", which will require tests and quarantine on return. A senior government source told The Telegraph that ministers believe they can "keep tight controls in place at the border while taking a significant step forward on international travel". A review of the system is planned at the end of June, ahead of the main summer holiday season, which is expected to pave the way for vaccinated people to possibly avoid quarantine and take fewer or no tests. By this time, more of Europe could be rated "green".

While this is good news, it still makes no sense to me why people coming from amber countries who want an early release need three PCR tests AS WELL as a pre-departure test?
HB7 is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 6:59 pm
  #7253  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 30,065
Wasn’t there talk of the ability to only buy a day 2 test? What happened?

I can’t find any info
enviroian is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 7:01 pm
  #7254  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Earth
Posts: 912
Originally Posted by HB7
The DT are reporting that overseas holidays are a go from May 17th:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-light-may-17/

It is behind a paywall, but the crux of the article is this:

The ban on overseas holidays will end on May 17, the Government is set to announce next week, in the first step to reviving foreign travel. It will no longer be illegal to go abroad from that date, meaning summer holidays overseas will be allowed, with a traffic light system for countries to be introduced. Initially only a "tiny handful" of countries are expected to be on the "green list", however, and everyone even those who have been vaccinated will have to take a PCR Covid test after returning to Britain. Most European countries are expected to be on the "amber list", which will require tests and quarantine on return. A senior government source told The Telegraph that ministers believe they can "keep tight controls in place at the border while taking a significant step forward on international travel". A review of the system is planned at the end of June, ahead of the main summer holiday season, which is expected to pave the way for vaccinated people to possibly avoid quarantine and take fewer or no tests. By this time, more of Europe could be rated "green".

While this is good news, it still makes no sense to me why people coming from amber countries who want an early release need three PCR tests AS WELL as a pre-departure test?

This isnt good news. It would essentially result in an ongoing ban until June. Limited options with enormous expense. Why would a family bother? There is playing it safe but it seems the U.K. is running from ghosts that arent there. No variant yet has been shown to defeat the vaccines. Most of the vulnerable now jabbed. Its complete madness thats going to bankrupt the travel industry.
paulaf and SailorTomSparrow like this.

Last edited by allergictocoach; Apr 30, 2021 at 8:57 pm
allergictocoach is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 7:13 pm
  #7255  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 93
Originally Posted by enviroian
Wasn’t there talk of the ability to only buy a day 2 test? What happened?

I can’t find any info
Randox will sell you a day 2 only for 120. Also DNA Workplace will sell you the day 2 only test for 90 but you need to contact them to book it, they will not sell it on the website for some reason. I find DNA Workplace respond very fast though to be fair to them.

I hope to see Randox slash their day 2 test to 60 soon in line with their PCR test for travel being 60.
enviroian and DaveS like this.
SailorTomSparrow is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 7:50 pm
  #7256  
exp
Suspended
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: DL, UA, AA, VS
Posts: 5,226
Originally Posted by HB7
The DT are reporting that overseas holidays are a go from May 17th:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-light-may-17/

It is behind a paywall, but the crux of the article is this:

The ban on overseas holidays will end on May 17, the Government is set to announce next week, in the first step to reviving foreign travel. It will no longer be illegal to go abroad from that date, meaning summer holidays overseas will be allowed, with a traffic light system for countries to be introduced. Initially only a "tiny handful" of countries are expected to be on the "green list", however, and everyone – even those who have been vaccinated – will have to take a PCR Covid test after returning to Britain. Most European countries are expected to be on the "amber list", which will require tests and quarantine on return. A senior government source told The Telegraph that ministers believe they can "keep tight controls in place at the border while taking a significant step forward on international travel". A review of the system is planned at the end of June, ahead of the main summer holiday season, which is expected to pave the way for vaccinated people to possibly avoid quarantine and take fewer or no tests. By this time, more of Europe could be rated "green".

While this is good news, it still makes no sense to me why people coming from amber countries who want an early release need three PCR tests AS WELL as a pre-departure test?
Originally Posted by allergictocoach
This isn’t good news. It would essentially result in an ongoing ban until June. Limited options with enormous expense. Why would a family bother? There is playing it safe but it seems the U.K. is running from ghosts that aren’t there. No variant yet has been shown to defeat the vaccines. Most of the vulnerable no jabbed. It’s complete madness that’s going to bankrupt the travel industry.
Well right now and by mid May, most EU countries will still have way higher case rate than the UK, probably as high as 2X.

So you could say it's defensible epidemiologically speaking. But if the UK and the EU want as much traffic going across the Channel, they will have to loosen up the rules.

Or maybe there will be pressure brought to bear from Brits keen to go on a holiday in the sun.
exp is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 8:45 pm
  #7257  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 30,065
Originally Posted by SailorTomSparrow
Randox will sell you a day 2 only for 120. Also DNA Workplace will sell you the day 2 only test for 90 but you need to contact them to book it, they will not sell it on the website for some reason. I find DNA Workplace respond very fast though to be fair to them.

I hope to see Randox slash their day 2 test to 60 soon in line with their PCR test for travel being 60.
Thanks for the info! I went on to the dna workplace website. What a joke. No mention of 90 pound day 2 test and when you click contact us there is no email or phone number. How are these companies in business?? What a joke.
enviroian is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 9:07 pm
  #7258  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Earth
Posts: 912
Originally Posted by exp
Well right now and by mid May, most EU countries will still have way higher case rate than the UK, probably as high as 2X.

So you could say it's defensible epidemiologically speaking. But if the UK and the EU want as much traffic going across the Channel, they will have to loosen up the rules.

Or maybe there will be pressure brought to bear from Brits keen to go on a holiday in the sun.

Hoping the idea is to keep people from getting sick not avoid cases. If the majority of a population is immune to serious illness based on vaccinations, whats the worry? Requiring multiple PCR tests for vaccinated persons is questionable. Goes against the common understanding of how vaccines work. The jabs have been going into people for 5 months. If people were thought to spread covid regularly after the jab, wed know it by now. If we cant have any cases and dont trust that the vaccines work, might just as well lock in forever.
paulaf likes this.
allergictocoach is offline  
Old Apr 30, 2021, 11:25 pm
  #7259  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 963
Originally Posted by HB7
The DT are reporting that overseas holidays are a go from May 17th:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-light-may-17/

It is behind a paywall, but the crux of the article is this:

The ban on overseas holidays will end on May 17, the Government is set to announce next week, in the first step to reviving foreign travel. It will no longer be illegal to go abroad from that date, meaning summer holidays overseas will be allowed, with a traffic light system for countries to be introduced. Initially only a "tiny handful" of countries are expected to be on the "green list", however, and everyone even those who have been vaccinated will have to take a PCR Covid test after returning to Britain. Most European countries are expected to be on the "amber list", which will require tests and quarantine on return. A senior government source told The Telegraph that ministers believe they can "keep tight controls in place at the border while taking a significant step forward on international travel". A review of the system is planned at the end of June, ahead of the main summer holiday season, which is expected to pave the way for vaccinated people to possibly avoid quarantine and take fewer or no tests. By this time, more of Europe could be rated "green".

While this is good news, it still makes no sense to me why people coming from amber countries who want an early release need three PCR tests AS WELL as a pre-departure test?
Ok, so maybe some of your predictions over the past four months of the travel ban lasting until everyone in the UK had both doses were wrong?
KSVVZ2015 is offline  
Old May 1, 2021, 12:05 am
  #7260  
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 64,053
What that Telegraph story is a pre-event article, indicating that the 17 May date is on (recently it hasn't been in any doubt) but illustrating how the presentation will be made. Namely next week around 5 to 7 May, either with the list of countries given or that following a day or two later, to avoid questions on "why country X?" during the press briefing. There are elections on Thursday and results on Friday, so that means it's more likely to be Wednesday I guess. But we will find out whether self administered LFD is OK for pre-arrival testing. I can't see HMG budging on the day2 PCR test due to the genome sequencing issue. We may hear a bit more on the digital vaccine certificate, which was trialled last week with some NHS staff.

The source of the story is clearly Shapps, so if he saying "about 10 countries" are Green then we can take it at face value. Shapps tends to leak stories in order to make it harder to row back on a policy that he thinks has been agreed. The PM may want to make the list a bit larger than that, notably whether USA is Green or not. Most of the factors are in America's favour, but the level of infection remains stubbonly high - five times the level of Britain - for a country that started vaccine rollout at pretty much the same time as the UK. On the other hand there are recent signs of this reducing downwards. I would expect the list to be a lot longer by end of June.
adrianlondon and DaveS like this.
corporate-wage-slave is online now  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.