Breaking News: CO jet accident at DEN [20-Dec-2008]
Dec 20, 2008, 10:08 pm
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www.9news.com is streaming their 10PM newscast live now.
Some pax saying the plane's nose was up for 3-4 seconds and then slammed back down, front of the plane "started buckling."
Some pax saying the plane's nose was up for 3-4 seconds and then slammed back down, front of the plane "started buckling."
Dec 20, 2008, 10:10 pm
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I always take my redeye ambien just prior to boarding. It usually takes about 45 mins to kick in... flight is too short to do it after we are in the air
Dec 20, 2008, 10:12 pm
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Dec 20, 2008, 10:13 pm
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Greg Feith interviewed on 9News, is interested in the crosswind, thinks it might have caused the right wingtip to drag, involving the right engine nacelle. Also wondering about a catastrophic engine failure of #2 which could have caused the abort.
Dec 20, 2008, 10:19 pm
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One earlier report here in Denver reported that the wing actually broke off. Haven't heard this anywhere else though, so I'm currently chalking it up to erroneous early reporting. Denver fire chief described the scene as told to him by his firefighters as "surreal." Apparently (after all passengers evacuated it sounds like) the overhead bins "melted into the seats." Still no pictures really of the plane. CBS4 and Channel 7 here in Colorado showed a blurry cell pic taken by a passenger, but nothing else as of yet.
Dec 20, 2008, 10:19 pm
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Dec 20, 2008, 10:21 pm
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One earlier report here in Denver reported that the wing actually broke off. Haven't heard this anywhere else though, so I'm currently chalking it up to erroneous early reporting. Denver fire chief described the scene as told to him by his firefighters as "surreal." Apparently (after all passengers evacuated it sounds like) the overhead bins "melted into the seats." Still no pictures really of the plane. CBS4 and Channel 7 here in Colorado showed a blurry cell pic taken by a passenger, but nothing else as of yet.
Dec 20, 2008, 10:33 pm
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37 people now listed as injured, one severely; all now are listed in "good" condition.
Peeps being advised of delays tomorrow at DIA as the west side will be closed. The two 16/35 runways and runway 8/26 will be available, but this will effectively put DIA at half capacity on a Sunday semi-holiday weekend.
(I'll go out on a limb and say that they'll quickly open all but 34R/16L because DIA's runways are very liberally spaced and activities around 34R/16L shouldn't keep the other westside runways closed for long.)
Peeps being advised of delays tomorrow at DIA as the west side will be closed. The two 16/35 runways and runway 8/26 will be available, but this will effectively put DIA at half capacity on a Sunday semi-holiday weekend.
(I'll go out on a limb and say that they'll quickly open all but 34R/16L because DIA's runways are very liberally spaced and activities around 34R/16L shouldn't keep the other westside runways closed for long.)
Dec 20, 2008, 10:37 pm
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sounds like the crew handled this well and got people off the plane before fire spread to the cabin. Good work.
This got me to tihnking about some of the items I even cary on(or check) on a plane and what I'd do if they were gone forever.......ohhh not good.
This got me to tihnking about some of the items I even cary on(or check) on a plane and what I'd do if they were gone forever.......ohhh not good.
Dec 20, 2008, 10:40 pm
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don't forget that 34 r is the monster dia runway, at 16,000 feet.....there would have been plenty of time to abort
Dec 20, 2008, 10:40 pm
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And about Ambien popping - if i take Ambien i can fall asleep more easily but am certainly not out of it. Does it really put other people in a drug haze?
Dec 20, 2008, 10:47 pm
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Ambien does not put me out except for making sleep easier as far as I know but I did cook in my sleep on it once. I did talk a person one day though that compared taking an Ambien to drinking a bottle of whiskey. She said that when she takes it she is useless and out of it for 7 or 8 hours. All it has to do is slow judgment a small amount to cause problems in an emergency. Like all medications they affect people differently. I take Norco for pain which is 10 mg Hydrocodone per tab and I take 2 at a time. They barely affect me whereas some people would be conked out with just 1 or even 1 Vicodin which isn't as strong.
Dec 20, 2008, 10:50 pm
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I am typically so tired when I step on the plane I can sleep without the meds which I am very thankful for, meds are bad for you and keep you groggy when you wake. Not something you want in emergency case.
Dec 20, 2008, 10:54 pm
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IIRC it was Men's Health that reviewed various sleep drugs a few years ago and referred to Ambien as "like getting hit in the head with a shovel". 
Good for the crew and the FA's for getting everyone out. Way to go CO. ^
Couple observations: if the bins were melting onto the seats, that IMO can't be anything else but a fuel-involved fire. Crosswind probably dragged the wing, impacted the engine and sparked the right side. Wrong place wrong time for a crosswind gust.
(Other observation: at least it wasn't a newer 737.)
Good for the crew and the FA's for getting everyone out. Way to go CO. ^
Couple observations: if the bins were melting onto the seats, that IMO can't be anything else but a fuel-involved fire. Crosswind probably dragged the wing, impacted the engine and sparked the right side. Wrong place wrong time for a crosswind gust.
(Other observation: at least it wasn't a newer 737.)
Dec 20, 2008, 10:55 pm
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I hate the 735's...
Hope everyone is OK!
Shame this had to happen over the holidays, or any at any time for that matter.
So does this seem like pilot error or is it far to early to tell?
Hope everyone is OK!
Shame this had to happen over the holidays, or any at any time for that matter.
So does this seem like pilot error or is it far to early to tell?