Flying Same Day Stand-By
#76


Join Date: Jun 2007
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You know, folks, we have been very fortunate to have Scott as our liaison and advocate lo these many months (or is it now years?).
Scott, please know that most of us are very appreciative of what you do here, and these types of comments are not the norm.
To the posters who for some reason need to make crude and inappropriate remarks, shame on you. We can debate these changes in a civil manner, and perhaps by doing so Continental will listen to us and who knows, maybe roll them back. If these comments are the best that we can do, then I think we have a problem.
Scott, please know that most of us are very appreciative of what you do here, and these types of comments are not the norm.
To the posters who for some reason need to make crude and inappropriate remarks, shame on you. We can debate these changes in a civil manner, and perhaps by doing so Continental will listen to us and who knows, maybe roll them back. If these comments are the best that we can do, then I think we have a problem.
#77
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,613
The point of this, of course, is to make people who want flexibility pay for flexibility. You can either buy a flexible ticket, or you can buy the flexibility on the day of the flight when you need it (for a very cheap price relative to the difference between a refundable fare and an L fare, I might add). And seriously, the fee isn't high enough to drive that many people away from CO in the current competitive environment. Really, this seems a no-brainer.
Will it hurt me? Yes, I'll end up paying $25 occasionally. I've paid DL's higher fee when I wanted same-day confirmed as a non-elite on DL. Does it upset me? No, not really. CO isn't exactly raking in profits right now. I can live with it.
So, do I think it's a good idea? Well, for CO, yes, I think this is a good thing to charge a fee for. Less annoying than a lot of the other possibilities for raising money. Do I think it's a good idea for me? Not too bad. The 12 hour confirmed change window is a plus.
Will it hurt me? Yes, I'll end up paying $25 occasionally. I've paid DL's higher fee when I wanted same-day confirmed as a non-elite on DL. Does it upset me? No, not really. CO isn't exactly raking in profits right now. I can live with it.
So, do I think it's a good idea? Well, for CO, yes, I think this is a good thing to charge a fee for. Less annoying than a lot of the other possibilities for raising money. Do I think it's a good idea for me? Not too bad. The 12 hour confirmed change window is a plus.
#78




Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: CO Plat
Posts: 379
Well in one sense it will make life easier:
No more worrying "Do I pay for confirmed standby to get a chance at the upgrade, or do I save the money and definitely get on the plane, but no chance at the upgrade?"
No more worrying "Do I pay for confirmed standby to get a chance at the upgrade, or do I save the money and definitely get on the plane, but no chance at the upgrade?"
#79

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I can't envision any scenario where allowing a passenger to standby and claim a seat that would have otherwise gone out empty on an earlier flight is anything other than a win for the airline given that it frees up a seat on a later flight that may eventually get sold.
I did the same day confirmed change a couple of time when it was $25. I'd have to be desperate to do it for $50.
#80




Join Date: May 2004
Location: US
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This new policy is
especially for Silver Elites. I am barely making Gold for the last few years. Paying $50 for a standby may be too expensive.
I am still not clear on later standbys.
If my scheduled flight is at 6 am (first flight of the day), and I want to standby for a 8 pm flight the same day, do I call the previous day after 8 pm (24 hour window) or call after 8 am on the day of the flight (12 hrs within the flight departure) ?
I am still not clear on later standbys.
If my scheduled flight is at 6 am (first flight of the day), and I want to standby for a 8 pm flight the same day, do I call the previous day after 8 pm (24 hour window) or call after 8 am on the day of the flight (12 hrs within the flight departure) ?
#81
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I thought the same thing. An airline never knows when the next problem may come down the road...misconnects that need to be accommodated, mechanicals, etc Getting out passengers on to their final destination as soon as possible on the first flight possible would seem to me to be a good idea. For example: The passenger you put on an earlier flight won't be a potential IDB/VDB later in the day.
There were thunderstorms in the morning at both AUS and IAH that threw off the schedules. My flight (last one of the night) was cancelled and I was automatically rebooked onto the first one the next day. Knowing that flights before mine were open, I called and got a seat on one of them. Would CO charge me for that?
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#83
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I had something happen during the AUS-IAH segment of a trip that makes your post stand out to me.
There were thunderstorms in the morning at both AUS and IAH that threw off the schedules. My flight (last one of the night) was cancelled and I was automatically rebooked onto the first one the next day. Knowing that flights before mine were open, I called and got a seat on one of them. Would CO charge me for that?
There were thunderstorms in the morning at both AUS and IAH that threw off the schedules. My flight (last one of the night) was cancelled and I was automatically rebooked onto the first one the next day. Knowing that flights before mine were open, I called and got a seat on one of them. Would CO charge me for that?
#84
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I am still not clear on later standbys.
If my scheduled flight is at 6 am (first flight of the day), and I want to standby for a 8 pm flight the same day, do I call the previous day after 8 pm (24 hour window) or call after 8 am on the day of the flight (12 hrs within the flight departure) ?
If my scheduled flight is at 6 am (first flight of the day), and I want to standby for a 8 pm flight the same day, do I call the previous day after 8 pm (24 hour window) or call after 8 am on the day of the flight (12 hrs within the flight departure) ?
You could also switch to the 8pm flight the night before, starting at 8am that morning. You'd be T-22 from your flight, so inside the 24h window and also T-12 from the new flight.
#85
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I thought the same thing. An airline never knows when the next problem may come down the road...misconnects that need to be accommodated, mechanicals, etc Getting out passengers on to their final destination as soon as possible on the first flight possible would seem to me to be a good idea. For example: The passenger you put on an earlier flight won't be a potential IDB/VDB later in the day.
The last SAT-IAH flight of the day (#778) comes in from EWR. Oftentimes, this means that it runs late, although the delays tend to manifest themselves late in the game. For those of us who can shake loose, make good time to the airport, and can potentially catch the next earlier flight (# 1678), it is shortsighted for CO to deter us with the $50 fee when a consequence of not standing by may be a misconnection at IAH created by the backlog at EWR. And three or four extra rum and cokes at the SAT Presidents Club.
If CO wants to charge me more when for the convenience of flying an hour earlier, can I charge it the same $50 when flights like #778 inconvenience me by running an hour behind? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. CO Insider: get out your checkbook!
#86




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#87
Join Date: Mar 2008
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The enhanced 12 Hour window is a major improvement for me.
The previous 3 hour window for confirmed stand by was far too restrictive to be helpful. If I wanted to confirm on the later flight, I would have to have missed my booked flight, and cross my fingers that at the 3 hour mark a seat would still be available on the later flight.
Now that I can get a confirmed seat in advance for a discount, I'll likely use this feature regularly.
The previous 3 hour window for confirmed stand by was far too restrictive to be helpful. If I wanted to confirm on the later flight, I would have to have missed my booked flight, and cross my fingers that at the 3 hour mark a seat would still be available on the later flight.
Now that I can get a confirmed seat in advance for a discount, I'll likely use this feature regularly.
#88
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I'm scheduled for 5 pm departure IAH-BOS but it doesn't look like a I'll get the upgrade (3 seats left and though I am platinum, I am on a B class ticket). The 7 pm departure is wide open in First class.
Can I change to the 7pm flight at 7 am or 5 am? (for 25 dollar fee, of course)
Am I included on the upgrade standby list as soon as the change is confirmed or do I have to go to the airport/gate to be put on the upgrade list?
#89
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OK - so let me test this out:
I'm scheduled for 5 pm departure IAH-BOS but it doesn't look like a I'll get the upgrade (3 seats left and though I am platinum, I am on a B class ticket). The 7 pm departure is wide open in First class.
Can I change to the 7pm flight at 7 am or 5 am? (for 25 dollar fee, of course)
Am I included on the upgrade standby list as soon as the change is confirmed or do I have to go to the airport/gate to be put on the upgrade list?
I'm scheduled for 5 pm departure IAH-BOS but it doesn't look like a I'll get the upgrade (3 seats left and though I am platinum, I am on a B class ticket). The 7 pm departure is wide open in First class.
Can I change to the 7pm flight at 7 am or 5 am? (for 25 dollar fee, of course)
Am I included on the upgrade standby list as soon as the change is confirmed or do I have to go to the airport/gate to be put on the upgrade list?
I have no idea when you'll be put on the upgrade list, but that will only be the third tie-break after status and fare class, so I wouldn't sweat that too much. As long as you're on the list at T-30 or so when they start clearing upgrades at the gate you'll be fine.
#90
Join Date: Mar 2006
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You can change to the 7pm flight at 7am (within 12 hours of the new departure time AND within 24 hours of scheduled flight); at 5am you'd be 14 hours from the new departure time.
I have no idea when you'll be put on the upgrade list, but that will only be the third tie-break after status and fare class, so I wouldn't sweat that too much. As long as you're on the list at T-30 or so when they start clearing upgrades at the gate you'll be fine.
I have no idea when you'll be put on the upgrade list, but that will only be the third tie-break after status and fare class, so I wouldn't sweat that too much. As long as you're on the list at T-30 or so when they start clearing upgrades at the gate you'll be fine.
Thanks. The reason why I ask is that in the event I have a connection from an int'l destination, I'd want to be put on the upgrade list prior to actually arriving in the airport of my connection, in case I have a tight connection.

