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Originally Posted by bernardd
(Post 9334533)
It's a pretty academic question because I can't see any of the US carriers having access to the funds to buy a healthy European carrier, plus it seems AF is likely to swallow AZ in the near future.
From a legal point of view I believe there are no restrictions that stop a US carrier from acquiring the stock of a European carrier, and there's no 25% rule. In the absence of the open aviation area that's been proposed, the operator of an intra-European flight has to be European, and presumably any bi-lateral agreements with Asia or African countries would presumably require the operator on those routes to be European or from the agreement country. If I have that right, CO would therefore be able to buy a European carrier and operate longhaul flights to the US, but would have to shutdown or sell pretty much any other route It's hard to envisage scenarios where that would be attractive. |
in today's global society there are ways around the 49 rule.
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NW Pilot Doesnt Think it Will Happen (DL/NW)
I was on a NW flight yesterday. Sitting one row ahead of me in F was a NW pilot and what appeared to be a well travelled NW elite having an animated conversation about the proposed merger. I couldnt help but overhear.
The pilot gave it 75% against the DL/NW merger happening. He said "We (the pilots NW & DL) dont play well together". He also went on at length that what the NW pilots want is a NW/CO deal. Of course both parties where biased to NW. I know this does not mean anything other than one NW pilot's opinion, but I pass it on for what it's worth. |
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Originally Posted by HangingOver
(Post 9341535)
in today's global society there are ways around the 49 rule.
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Originally Posted by pbarnette
(Post 9344594)
Leave that riff-raff in Chicago...I like being treated like a human being when flying, on UA you have the distinct pleasure of dealing with unintelligible international call-centers, and rebelling+surly TA's/GA's/FA's/Pilots, etc. |
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Anyway, am I missing anything here? I'm not trying to start a "one airline is better" argument, but rather to understand folks' admirable loyalty to CO..[/QUOTE] As a "reformed" CO flyer, When the deal stated to go bad, it took me a while to internalize it, in part bacause the best option (go back to UA) was unapatizing. CO has one major thing going for it: giving away Upgrades, it makes you think they are looking out for you, treating you as good as they can. Sometimes something for nothing (a free upgrade) is worth more than somthing you have to pay for (using 5 500 mile upgrades). A free upgrade is like winning the lottery, it fun it feels good. I never feel the same way "payin g" for an upgrade. That said, I finally did the math, and am now much happier... :) |
Heads up. DL and NW pilots are talking again.
Full Article
March 5 (Bloomberg) -- Delta Air Lines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. pilot leaders resumed talks to reach an accord on meshing their unions, the last major step needed for the carriers to merge, people with knowledge of the matter said. The meetings restarted yesterday in the Washington, D.C., area, said the people, who asked not to be named because the discussions are private. Delta and Northwest rose the most in more than a month in New York trading. |
And things are heating up again over at DL/NW.
http://www.ajc.com/business/content/...ge_tab_newstab |
Originally Posted by Renard
(Post 9487991)
And things are heating up again over at DL/NW.
http://www.ajc.com/business/content/...ge_tab_newstab |
Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 9488204)
I'd say it's going nowhere until the pilot issues are resolved - and if, as the article states, there is no commitment to prevent job losses, the pilots might still block the merger even if the seniority issue is worked out, perhaps out of solidarity with their colleagues.
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Somewhere I read that the DL folks put a time limit on DL/NW. They felt it had to be done by the end of March in order for it to be reviewed by the current administration. I suspect that this is the one, last push.
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Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 9488899)
Agreed. Just because NW really wants to merge doesn't mean that it is going to happen. I actually think it is less likely since the unions now have more to fear in terms of job cuts.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Nuke
(Post 9491121)
The Unions don't have to sign off on a merger for it to happen though. Certainly it would be desirable, preferable, etc. to have them on board, but it isn't a necessity. Just because Delta and Northwest want to merge together it can happen.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Nuke
(Post 9491121)
The Unions don't have to sign off on a merger for it to happen though. Certainly it would be desirable, preferable, etc. to have them on board, but it isn't a necessity. Just because Delta and Northwest want to merge together it can happen.
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