Proper protocol for asking to switch seats?
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It is fine if they are sitting in the seat waiting for me, as this can be practical, but if they have already taken off shoes, stowed stuff in the seat-back pockets, or the like, then that is just rude.
As a general rule, though, I try to accommodate, unless they are giving me an awful seat or I would be giving up a great one. I would never trade exit row or bulkhead in coach, for instance, but would switch window for aisle or vice versa. I'm not overly sussed as to whether the seat is forward or behind.
Then again, the last time something like this happened, the guy sitting in my seat randomly happened to be my boss (well, boss's boss), traveling with his kids on a Saturday morning flight. He offered his F seat for my coach seat so he could sit with his wife and kids. I calmly mulled the offer, called him a sucker/idiot/something like that, and moved up front, aglow in my selflessness.
I have asked to switch before, but only when I am offering the other person something objectively better - like my aisle or window to someone in a middle seat, or F (well, intra-European J, FWIW) for Y. Never had anyone turn me down, but I would be cool about it if they did.
As a general rule, though, I try to accommodate, unless they are giving me an awful seat or I would be giving up a great one. I would never trade exit row or bulkhead in coach, for instance, but would switch window for aisle or vice versa. I'm not overly sussed as to whether the seat is forward or behind.
Then again, the last time something like this happened, the guy sitting in my seat randomly happened to be my boss (well, boss's boss), traveling with his kids on a Saturday morning flight. He offered his F seat for my coach seat so he could sit with his wife and kids. I calmly mulled the offer, called him a sucker/idiot/something like that, and moved up front, aglow in my selflessness.
I have asked to switch before, but only when I am offering the other person something objectively better - like my aisle or window to someone in a middle seat, or F (well, intra-European J, FWIW) for Y. Never had anyone turn me down, but I would be cool about it if they did.
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It is fine if they are sitting in the seat waiting for me, as this can be practical, but if they have already taken off shoes, stowed stuff in the seat-back pockets, or the like, then that is just rude.
I have asked to switch before, but only when I am offering the other person something objectively better - like my aisle or window to someone in a middle seat, or F (well, intra-European J, FWIW) for Y. Never had anyone turn me down, but I would be cool about it if they did.
I have asked to switch before, but only when I am offering the other person something objectively better - like my aisle or window to someone in a middle seat, or F (well, intra-European J, FWIW) for Y. Never had anyone turn me down, but I would be cool about it if they did.
I have had PAX ask if I would trade aisle for window and I always say no telling them that I get claustrophobic and need to sit up in the front and on the aisle or I will go crazy during the flight (which is actually quite true, I'm often up and down). Just because you have a reason doesn't mean you can get argued out of it, my reason usually works pretty well to silence the person.
I also always try to board early partly because of this issue (and partly because I like to have extra time to get comfortable) and because of a past experience where a GA assigned someone else to my seat -- I always want to be there first. So it has been a long time since someone has asked me to switch seats.
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Originally Posted by pbarnette
Then again, the last time something like this happened, the guy sitting in my seat randomly happened to be my boss (well, boss's boss), traveling with his kids on a Saturday morning flight. He offered his F seat for my coach seat so he could sit with his wife and kids. I calmly mulled the offer, called him a sucker/idiot/something like that, and moved up front, aglow in my selflessness.
LOL ^
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#36
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Poachers need to be told to MOVE their butt
I ask because 3 times in a row in the past two weeks, I had an aisle FC seat, and when I got on the plane there was someone already sitting in my seat who then asked me if I would mind switching with their spouse or teen, from whom they were separated.
I don't mind and will always switch. However, it does sort of annoy me when someone is already sitting in my seat and looks surprised when I tell them: Hi, I think this is my seat. Of course, I guess it would be worse if I was seated with my things in the overhead and under the seat in front of me and items spread around (if that was the case).
Yes, FC - so nobody is asking me to take a middle seat, but still - if I get to choose my seat in advance, maybe I still wanted the seat I chose for a reason?
Maybe I'm just because in the last instance, I ended up having to sit in my least favorite FC seat next to a very obese, talkative, first-time-flying-in-first woman who was clueless about everything and drove me nuts and almost spilled her drinks on me throughout the flight (requiring me to guard the glass on the console continuously from her flailing limbs - she was also turning her very large body in the seat from side to side to figure out the headset for hours, thereby knocking her glass).
Or maybe I'm just sick of being nice and need to vent...
Is it more polite to move first, ask later, stand and hover without blocking the aisle?
(Apologizing in advance if this Q was specifically answered. I did a search and could not find it.)
I don't mind and will always switch. However, it does sort of annoy me when someone is already sitting in my seat and looks surprised when I tell them: Hi, I think this is my seat. Of course, I guess it would be worse if I was seated with my things in the overhead and under the seat in front of me and items spread around (if that was the case).
Yes, FC - so nobody is asking me to take a middle seat, but still - if I get to choose my seat in advance, maybe I still wanted the seat I chose for a reason?
Maybe I'm just because in the last instance, I ended up having to sit in my least favorite FC seat next to a very obese, talkative, first-time-flying-in-first woman who was clueless about everything and drove me nuts and almost spilled her drinks on me throughout the flight (requiring me to guard the glass on the console continuously from her flailing limbs - she was also turning her very large body in the seat from side to side to figure out the headset for hours, thereby knocking her glass).
Or maybe I'm just sick of being nice and need to vent...
Is it more polite to move first, ask later, stand and hover without blocking the aisle?
(Apologizing in advance if this Q was specifically answered. I did a search and could not find it.)
Apparently this person doesn't fly F often, but I would have told the
poacher that YES I DO MIND. I CHOSE MY SEAT WELL IN ADVANCE
FOR A REASON, AND I'D THANK YOU TO KINDLY REMOVE YOURSELF
AND RETURN TO YOUR CORRECT SEAT WHERE YOU BELONG.
Or if you're timid, I'd have the FA do tell them to move their butt to
where they belong.
If they couldn't stand sitting where their family are, they should have either got the rest of the family coach tickets and then arranged themselves a seat in F, or picked separate F seats when they bought their tix.
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If someone is already in my seat when I get there I think one of two things:
1. They are rude.
2. They are too stupid to figure out what seat they should be in.
I hate moving seats and can only remember doing it twice, once to let a co-worker on crutches have seat 3B on a RJ so he would have more room (I offered, he didn't ask), and another time I don't know why I moved, but I went back three rows, but still in the aisle.
One time a guy was in my seat in first and wanted to fight me for it! Literally, he asked me if I wanted to fight him for it - and he was big, like 6'4 300 lbs big. I told him I didn't want to fight him, I just wanted to sit in my seat, he reluctantly moved back to his window seat about four rows back - I sat down with a big sigh of relief.
1. They are rude.
2. They are too stupid to figure out what seat they should be in.
I hate moving seats and can only remember doing it twice, once to let a co-worker on crutches have seat 3B on a RJ so he would have more room (I offered, he didn't ask), and another time I don't know why I moved, but I went back three rows, but still in the aisle.
One time a guy was in my seat in first and wanted to fight me for it! Literally, he asked me if I wanted to fight him for it - and he was big, like 6'4 300 lbs big. I told him I didn't want to fight him, I just wanted to sit in my seat, he reluctantly moved back to his window seat about four rows back - I sat down with a big sigh of relief.
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Poachers belong in Coach NOT in F
"You'll have to speak to the FA if you need to be reseated. However, I would like to sit down, so if you don't mind . . ."
Any refusal beyond that and I'll call the FA myself.
Excellent.I choose my seats with care and all F seats are not created equal. If asked, I'll switch to an equal or better seat or, if I think the reason is compelling, I might switch to a slightly worse seat.
However, if someone just takes my seat without asking first, I will never switch regardless of the reason.
Absolutely correct.
The lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine. - Old aerospace industry saying.
I like that.
You don't have to justify anything to anyone. "Sorry, I prefer this seat," is more than enough.
immediately.
Poachers belong in the back of the bus Not in F.
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If someone is sitting in my seat, I always kick them out. Theirs is an act of aggression, and they created the situation, so I will be more than happy to make it an uncomfortable and awkward moment for them.
That being said, for the first time ever in my flying experience someone was honest with me about stealing my seat. On my first flight of 2008 on an EMB 135 I had 9A (exit row) and someone was sitting in my seat. I did the usual double check of my boarding pass and he volunteered "am I sitting in your seat"? I said yes and he said, "I was hoping you wouldn't make the flight on time". Thank you for your honesty. I have never come closer to contradicting myself concerning my opening remark.
That being said, for the first time ever in my flying experience someone was honest with me about stealing my seat. On my first flight of 2008 on an EMB 135 I had 9A (exit row) and someone was sitting in my seat. I did the usual double check of my boarding pass and he volunteered "am I sitting in your seat"? I said yes and he said, "I was hoping you wouldn't make the flight on time". Thank you for your honesty. I have never come closer to contradicting myself concerning my opening remark.
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I will always move if asked, except to a middle seat in coach. But once, I has a bulk head window, and was asked to move so granny could sit with the family. As soon as we we got to altitude, granny put the grandson in that seat. I promptly took my bulkhead seat back.
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This is one of the (many) reasons why I always try to board early. I fly alot and really like certain seats (1A
) and choose it when booking weeks or months in advance. If someone asks to switch with me to 1 E or F--and it's a really good reason, maybe I will. But if they want me to move back to 3A, so they can sit with Mr Bubbles-- I'll politely decline and suggest they check with the person sitting next to their beloved. And "NO" I don't feel bad about telling them I won't move.
) and choose it when booking weeks or months in advance. If someone asks to switch with me to 1 E or F--and it's a really good reason, maybe I will. But if they want me to move back to 3A, so they can sit with Mr Bubbles-- I'll politely decline and suggest they check with the person sitting next to their beloved. And "NO" I don't feel bad about telling them I won't move.Last year, I marched up to 3E on a flight to SFO to find the guy assigned to 3F sitting in my seat. I did the "excuse me, I think you're in my seat routine," and the guy claimed that he was mistaken. Unfortunately, I had to offer 2B to the guy so that my friend in 2B could move next to me in 3F and I hated to reward this purportedly "mistaken" individual (who was a Plat, by the way).
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Actually I DID sit in the wrong seat in first class the other day. I was taking two flights that day and in the second flight I just went and sat in the seat I had sat in the first flight. I was a little shocked when someone came and asked me why I was sitting in his seat. I think I might have said in 2B and was supposed to sit in 1B, although I can't remember exactly, but the guy I think just thought I was dumb and sat in my seat. So it isn't always being strategic even if you fly a lot. You might just be too tired to pay that much attention.
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Almost forgot my "best" seat change request. I was on an ERJ flying DCA to somewhere (probably CLE) in 12A. The flight was about 50% full, and two borderline POS's, a husband and wife, were seated in 12B/C. Just before the door closed, the woman in 12B leaned over, tapped me on the shoulder, and asked if I would be interested in moving to 9A. Her selling point was that "it's still an aisle." I actually was so shocked by the absurdity of the request that I just stared at her for a few seconds before saying (indignantly) "no." She looked offended and said "sorry; just asking."
Can you believe that? It wasn't good enough that she and her husband already were seated next to one another in the exit row; they wanted the entire exit row to themselves so that the husband could spread out in 12B/C and the wife could relax in 12A. And, there were plenty of other empty pairs of B/C seats where one of them could have moved if they wanted more seat width in which to beach themselves.
Can you believe that? It wasn't good enough that she and her husband already were seated next to one another in the exit row; they wanted the entire exit row to themselves so that the husband could spread out in 12B/C and the wife could relax in 12A. And, there were plenty of other empty pairs of B/C seats where one of them could have moved if they wanted more seat width in which to beach themselves.
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"Hi, I think you are in my seat . . . 1E? (or whatever)," as you show them the boarding pass you are carrying in your hand. I have politely kicked people out of my seat many, many times in this manner - that is why I always keep my boarding pass handy until boarding is complete.
I always refuse to switch unless I am offered a similar or better seat. Sometimes, I will not switch just because I am in a favorite seat.
In your situation, I cannot believe that you traded with someone who had the nerve to just occupy your seat. I would have refused to change seats on that basis alone. Not to mention the fact that you traded an aisle for a window. Willingly switching seats with such people simply encourages the practice (i.e., sitting in a seat one knows belongs to someone else, before even asking), IMO.
I always refuse to switch unless I am offered a similar or better seat. Sometimes, I will not switch just because I am in a favorite seat.
In your situation, I cannot believe that you traded with someone who had the nerve to just occupy your seat. I would have refused to change seats on that basis alone. Not to mention the fact that you traded an aisle for a window. Willingly switching seats with such people simply encourages the practice (i.e., sitting in a seat one knows belongs to someone else, before even asking), IMO.
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I would never do this in Y but in FC I guess I am worried that I will be publicly shamed by the FAs since they are all considered "good" seats (I have actually heard that said by someone before when they would not move when asked). Also, when it's someone who wants to sit with their (even teenage) child, I am sort of afraid of a rude response by the parent and the FAs being mean to me!

If you like an aisle seat, then a window seat is inferior (and vice versa)....even in first class.
I was on a UA HNL-DEN redeye in Y, seated at a bulkhead, aisle E+ seat....which is my favorite seat when flying this equipment in Y. It makes coach almost livable. It was a seat carefully chosen in advance. I had this guy ask me to switch with him to his bulkhead window so he could sit right next to his family. In general I am not a window seat person and I told him no. Window seats make me claustrophobic...especially on an longhaul redeye. He put on a big show. He was in the same row as his family and his 3 or 4 kids...can't remember exactly how many...but it was too many. Of course, the guy made me 'pay for my bad behavior' as he crawled over me the whole night to visit his kids.
Later in the flight, the FA came up to me, apologized for the man's behavior. She gave me a UA skykit and told me to send it in...I received a nice travel credit voucher in the mail for that...mind you, I didn't complain and had asked for nothing. (I have since learned that this often happens when you send in the skykit.)

