Refundable ticket to get through security at EWR

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Aug 10, 2007 | 7:54 am
  #1  
I know I'm going to get a lot of heat for this question, but I wasn't able to manipulate the search function well enough to find my answer.

I want to purchase a refundable ticket on Sunday morning to meet someone airside.

So, I go to co.com, purchase something, check-in, print my boarding pass, but then call them and cancel it? Can I do this before I leave for the airport?
Aug 10, 2007 | 7:58 am
  #2  
You can probably cancel before you leave for the airport but it is certainly safer to cancel once you arrive and pass through security. Otherwise you are technically not passing the TSA drones with a valid boarding pass. If you are a PC member you can always show your card and ask for a gate pass bypassing this procedure altogether.
Aug 10, 2007 | 7:59 am
  #3  
I'd cancel it the minute I get through security!
Aug 10, 2007 | 8:01 am
  #4  
Done this before but on another airline. Get through security and then called or go online and cancel the boarding pass and then request refund.
Aug 10, 2007 | 8:10 am
  #5  
This is one of the obvious flaws in our "make everyone feel safe" program post 9-11.

If we can figure it out, don't ya think a hijacker can figure it out @:-)
Aug 10, 2007 | 8:41 am
  #6  
Quote: This is one of the obvious flaws in our "make everyone feel safe" program post 9-11.

If we can figure it out, don't ya think a hijacker can figure it out @:-)
You just comprimised the security of our entire air-travel system. Until you put the words in the same post Google wouldn't have found it, so there's no way anyone would've known

To the OP, cancel it after you clear security (or in the car on the way home). No big deal.
Aug 10, 2007 | 8:41 am
  #7  
Fake Boarding Pass?
Why not just keep a fake boarding pass around ...just change the date/time to suit your needs?

The TSA's don't care about security, so as long as you're not harming anyone, why not just use a boarding pass you make rather than take away inventory CO could sell?
Aug 10, 2007 | 8:46 am
  #8  
You just comprimised the security of our entire air-travel system.

I think that if your name is on a no-fly list, it would get flagged when you purchased the ticket, so I am not certain that this technique would comprimise the security system.

Why not just keep a fake boarding pass around

I suspect that if caught, this might provide you with lots of government attention for a while
Aug 10, 2007 | 8:55 am
  #9  
No offense to radonc1, but who exactly is going to catch you? It's not like they scan a bar code to verify you are on a manifest of a flight. They just glance at the date, to/from and the name.

Now if you tried that in Mumbai, that's a different story. I'm sure other airports do this, too, but I was recently flying out of Mumbai and they have the manifest printout at the airport entrance and if you are not on it you can't even get into the building. They match up your passport with the flight manifest and then they let you inside.
Aug 10, 2007 | 12:11 pm
  #10  
Quote: This is one of the obvious flaws in our "make everyone feel safe" program post 9-11.

If we can figure it out, don't ya think a hijacker can figure it out @:-)
The hijacker needs to buy a ticket and have an ID--makes the person potentially traceable. If they forge an ID, they'd have to steal a cc or pay cash. The system isn't perfect, but it makes bad guys think the process through. Based on the recent incident in Glasgow, it appears that the TSA isn't always dealing with the smartest people on the planet. I'm not too concerned.
Aug 10, 2007 | 1:34 pm
  #11  
Quote: The hijacker needs to buy a ticket and have an ID--makes the person potentially traceable. If they forge an ID, they'd have to steal a cc or pay cash. The system isn't perfect, but it makes bad guys think the process through. Based on the recent incident in Glasgow, it appears that the TSA isn't always dealing with the smartest people on the planet. I'm not too concerned.
Checking ID is just Kabuki security. Just today I traveled by air VIE-HAM and my ID was not checked at all. Nobody seemed to have any problem with that. I had no bombs, guns, or other weapons. I was not a threat, ID or not. I even collected the boarding passes of other passengers when I collected mine and they traveled with me -- all without showing ID. Shock of shocks! Further discussion of this can be found on the TS&S forum.

Xyzzy
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Aug 10, 2007 | 4:44 pm
  #12  
Quote: Why not just keep a fake boarding pass around ...just change the date/time to suit your needs?

The TSA's don't care about security, so as long as you're not harming anyone, why not just use a boarding pass you make rather than take away inventory CO could sell?
I would no sooner use these tactics than I would move a sticker from a cheap item to an expensive item and check out of Home Depot. Honesty is much more important to me than "suiting my needs."

Jack