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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:26 am
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Starpoint conversion to continental airlines

Hello all,

I had posted this with no response in the starwood forum, thought somone here might be able to help me?

I was wondering - since *wood went 2:1 on their continental transfers, how that affects the 5,000 mile bonus. For example, if I transfer 20,000 starpoints, will I get:

1. 15,000 onepass miles (20,000 at 2:1 and 5,000 at 1:1)
2. 12,500 onepass miles (20,000 at 2:1 and 5,000 at 2:1)

Thanks!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 10:48 am
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Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but including the Starwood bonus (for transfers of 20,000 SPG points or more):

A transfer of 20,000 SPG points + 5,000 SPG bonus points = 12,500 CO miles
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:43 am
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I couldn't imagine turning SPG points into CO Miles. SPG points are like gold!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by channa
I couldn't imagine turning SPG points into CO Miles. SPG points are like gold!
I would happy to turn my CO miles into SPG points!!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:58 am
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It is all moot. Transfer via Amtrak and you will get 1:1.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:17 pm
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Pbarnette is right, if you want to change starpoints into Onepass miles, transfer to Amtrak first, then to CO. There is no 5000 bonus to transfer to Amtrak, however, and the transfers between Amtrak and CO are 1:1.

Be careful though, Amtrak limits how many points you can transfer into another program at 25000 per year unless you are an elite in their program. So at best, you can turn 25k starpoints into 25k Onepass miles per year.

For the record, I believe you get 12500 miles for 20000 starpoints if the relationship is 2:1.

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by drnp
Be careful though, Amtrak limits how many points you can transfer into another program at 25000 per year unless you are an elite in their program. So at best, you can turn 25k starpoints into 25k Onepass miles per year.
I would think that if you are transferring more than this, then you should think about transferring into NW or DL and book a partner ticket on CO. I would only transfer to CO if it was the only means I had to top up an account for an award. More than a few thousand, and I think you are wasting precious SPG points.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by drnp
For the record, I believe you get 15000 miles for 20000 starpoints if the relationship is 2:1
No.

When you transfer 20000 starpoints to the airline program, SPG will deduct 25000 starpoints from your account first, then add 5000 starpoints as bonus to your account. They are not adding 5000 airline miles.

Thus by this logic you will get 12500 CO miles.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:38 pm
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http://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefer...tner_list.html

for every 20,000 Starpoints you transfer, we'll add 5,000 bonus Starpoints

This means they deduct 20,000 from your account, add 5,000, then convert 25,000 to miles, which would be 12,500 at 2:1.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:50 pm
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Thanks all very much for the responses!
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 1:04 pm
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minor detail

Originally Posted by mia
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefer...tner_list.html

for every 20,000 Starpoints you transfer, we'll add 5,000 bonus Starpoints

This means they deduct 20,000 from your account, add 5,000, then convert 25,000 to miles, which would be 12,500 at 2:1.
It is what they say on the web site, but what they actually do is different.
Below is from my statement on my transfer to AA.

AIRLINE TRANSFER BONUS Apr 24, 2007 5000
AADVANTAGE FLYER MILES Apr 24, 2007 -25000
I've done this multiple time to CO before they change conversion rate (to burn SVO related starpoints before they expire), and statement is always like this.

Perhaps the order is:
- add 5000 starpoints to the account first,
- then deduct 25000 starpoints.

At the end the balance is the same but record shows 25000 points deduction.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by PforPlatinum
No.

When you transfer 20000 starpoints to the airline program, SPG will deduct 25000 starpoints from your account first, then add 5000 starpoints as bonus to your account. They are not adding 5000 airline miles.

Thus by this logic you will get 12500 CO miles.
Please read more of the thread before posting - this was already clarified in post number 2 and a "No" isn't in order.

Who cares how they "add" or "deduct"; it has nothing to do with the total number of points removed (from SPG) or added (to CO).
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by nycnnj
Please read more of the thread before posting - this was already clarified in post number 2 and a "No" isn't in order.

Who cares how they "add" or "deduct"; it has nothing to do with the total number of points removed (from SPG) or added (to CO).
I did read all the posts in this thread before I post, and I knew you already provided the correct answer to the OP. Thus I was not intended to post my reply.

Then I found drnp posted wrong information, thus (now I suggest you to read my post more carefully) I quoted that part and wrote "No." to that specific wrong information. Apparently, drnp seems to edit and corrected his/her original post.

The rest is just additional information. If you don't care, (I don't care much either), that's fine.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 2:40 pm
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Maybe this is dumb question, but does the 2:1 transfer affect the 'nights and flights' awards, where you get 50,000 miles and 5 nights hotel accommodations for 60/75k?

If I directed my nights/flights award to CO, would i get my 5 nights and only 25,000 CO miles?
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Maybe this is dumb question, but does the 2:1 transfer affect the 'nights and flights' awards, where you get 50,000 miles and 5 nights hotel accommodations for 60/75k?

If I directed my nights/flights award to CO, would i get my 5 nights and only 25,000 CO miles?
That's a good question.
Now it is the time to move this thread to SPG board... so Starwood Lurker can answer the question.
(I know he's lurking this board too, though.)
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