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Originally Posted by Hartmann
(Post 7608472)
Well considering you don't know me... :confused: :rolleyes:
I wouldn't leave CO, in fact, I could care less if they did not serve meals on their domestic flights. I flew AA almost exclusively up until December of 2006 and they do not serve meals on domestic economy at all, not even peanuts. So for you to think I'd care or to think that I am some elitist is asinine. I do not care if it is for a religious reason or not, any kind of special meal, is more costly because it is just that, special. If this irks you so much why do you still fly CO? As for AA thats why I left them, NY to Hawaii w/o any food. Still have close to 800k in my acct |
Originally Posted by entropy
(Post 7608440)
it isn't anyone's intention to add non-kosher components to the vegetables, its not like wrapping carrots in ham and then undoing it onto one's plate. The intent isn't there so its still covered.
If you want to live by ridiculous rules then go right ahead. CO shouldn't have to accomodate that on every flight they serve food on. 2) I ask that you retrack If you want to live by ridiculous rules ...., it would be akin to me saying well that Gay person deserved to be beaten up after all if he wants to live a ridiculous lifestyle he has to live with the consequences. I cant Help but think that calling afellow FTers Religious practices as being Ridiculous even if the name caller is of the same Religion MUST be against the FT Rules |
that was an example of what would not be acceptable. nobody would argue that having a carrot wrapped in ham would render the carrot unkosher, even with the ham removed. If someone who was chopping carrots in Chelsea used a knife that 2 months ago was used to cut un-kosher chicken breasts, there is no active role to introduce treyf into the carrots.
I won't retract that, your example is ridiculous. beating up a gay person is an active action by someone else. The same people who whine about LY flying on shabbat follow the same leaders as the ones who stab gay people and riot. its the same leaders who say that the shoah occured because there were reform jews. There are actions one can take, like beating someone up because you dislike them for some reason(like being gay). Continental isn't actively not serving you kosher food. They aren't trying to disrespect your beliefs. They are trying to save money by streamlining their catering operation. |
Originally Posted by entropy
(Post 7608638)
that was an example of what would not be acceptable. nobody would argue that having a carrot wrapped in ham would render the carrot unkosher, even with the ham removed. If someone who was chopping carrots in Chelsea used a knife that 2 months ago was used to cut un-kosher chicken breasts, there is no active role to introduce treyf into the carrots.
I won't retract that, your example is ridiculous. beating up a gay person is an active action by someone else. The same people who whine about LY flying on shabbat follow the same leaders as the ones who stab gay people and riot. its the same leaders who say that the shoah occured because there were reform jews. There are actions one can take, like beating someone up because you dislike them for some reason(like being gay). Continental isn't actively not serving you kosher food. They aren't trying to disrespect your beliefs. They are trying to save money by streamlining their catering operation. I can go into a Fish store and the same knife that was used to cut a non-kosher fish can be used to cut a kosher one w/o any problems, that is as long as the non-kosher fish wasnt hot and that the knife was washed off in water before cutting the kosher fish. |
[QUOTE=entropy;7608638]that was an example of what would not be acceptable. nobody would argue that having a carrot wrapped in ham would render the carrot unkosher, even with the ham removed. If someone who was chopping carrots in Chelsea used a knife that 2 months ago was used to cut un-kosher chicken breasts, there is no active role to introduce treyf into the carrots.
/QUOTE] You are aware arent You that Chelsea never prepared a single Kosher meal, but rather purchases/d them from a 3rd party. But there can be numerous reasons why a so called vegatarian meal still isnt Kosher |
However where as CO does supply food at meal times , then I feel they ought to Cater food to each persons needs! If you want to volunteer locate and negotiate with a supplier in the 200+ cities CO serves for KSMLs, VSML, VGML, MSM....at a cost that is competitive, go ahead, maybe they'd offer them again. |
Originally Posted by entropy
(Post 7608750)
right....
If you want to volunteer locate and negotiate with a supplier in the 200+ cities CO serves for KSMLs, VSML, VGML, MSM....at a cost that is competitive, go ahead, maybe they'd offer them again. As for KSML almost every single airport in the US that has an Intl flight will beable to supply a KSML. And since there are only a few 3rd party meal providers even for a so called reg meal, it shouldnt be so hard as to work it out. Now the problem can be can a Carrier offer KSML and not Halal or low-fat or low-sodium. When it comes to a KSML CO reminds me of TW in that there is hardly anything on the tray, yet when I flown SAS,BA,AZ,AF,KLM,AA,UA There is almost not an empty space on the tray. |
Originally Posted by craz
(Post 7608840)
Now the problem can be can a Carrier offer KSML and not Halal or low-fat or low-sodium. When it comes to a KSML CO reminds me of TW in that there is hardly anything on the tray, yet when I flown SAS,BA,AZ,AF,KLM,AA,UA There is almost not an empty space on the tray.
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Originally Posted by DH77024
(Post 7607017)
If CO is going to spend extra money, my opinion is that special meals at meal time are not a sound investment--I would rather they put the money into increasing pitch in their awful coach section. In fact, I would gladly forego ALL meal service in exchange for extra pitch.
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[QUOTE=piyush;7609013]That's why I like entropy's idea that they should come up with a meal that can satisfy mutliple special meals![/QUOTE[
:) Like fresh fruits and free beer |
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Originally Posted by piyush
(Post 7609013)
That's why I like entropy's idea that they should come up with a meal that can satisfy mutliple special meals![/QUOTE[
:) Like fresh fruits and free beer |
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Originally Posted by al613
(Post 7609064)
thats not fair , it will cost CO too much and we have to look out for the well being of CO after all. So I guess we will have to simply to agree with FREE BEER :p :D |
Originally Posted by piyush
(Post 7609013)
That's why I like entropy's idea that they should come up with a meal that can satisfy mutliple special meals!
http://blogs.wsj.com/informedreader/.../war-is-halal/ Anyway I don't think CO should offer a kosher meal for every 2 hour flight, but there's no excuse that on hub routes with a high percentage of religious jews(e.g. CLE-LAX) that a kosher meal isn't an option. I flew CLE-LAX before Passover and about half the pax were religious jews escaping the 3 feet of snow that Cleveland was about to be hammered with. While holiday time may be an exception, it's very rare for me not to spot at least a few religious jews on that route, and I'm sure that there are more hub routes such as that which could use an exception. |
Originally Posted by ctownflyer
(Post 7609282)
Im not saying that it's not possible but according to the WSJ, the US military tried to make a kosher/halal mean and decided it couldnt be done:
http://blogs.wsj.com/informedreader/.../war-is-halal/ Anyway I don't think CO should offer a kosher meal for every 2 hour flight, but there's no excuse that on hub routes with a high percentage of religious jews(e.g. CLE-LAX) that a kosher meal isn't an option. I flew CLE-LAX before Passover and about half the pax were religious jews escaping the 3 feet of snow that Cleveland was about to be hammered with. While holiday time may be an exception, it's very rare for me not to spot at least a few religious jews on that route, and I'm sure that there are more hub routes such as that which could use an exception. |
I'll repeat and clarify what I said earlier. I think its unreasonable to expect that no matter what the particular requirements are (not singling out kosher), that CO will accomodate you. If you're on the atkins diet and only eat protein, you can take your own bag of beef jerky. If you are VERY allergic to peanuts, you should probably pack your own meal, who knows how much peanut oil has accumulated in the food carts. If you're strictly kosher, you should get your food from a trusted source.
below is the list from CO. Vegan (Strict) Vegetarian Diabetic Gluten Free Low Calorie Low Fat/ Low Cholesterol Low Sodium Infant* Children's Fruit Plate Seafood (not offered on Breakfast flights) Hindu Hindu vegetarian meals are a standard choice on flights between New York/ Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty) and Delhi, India (DEL). It is not necessary to request Hindu vegetarian as a special meal for these particular flights. Kosher (During Passover season, only Passover Kosher meals are offered) Glatt Kosher (only offered on flights from Tel Aviv, Israel (TLV) to New York/ Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty) Moslem |
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