Transcon EUA successes
Jan 18, 2007 | 10:00 pm
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Transcon EUA successes
Just a quick survey for all the Pt members out there... what's your success rates for EUA on transcons from EWR (to LAX, SFO, SEA, etc)?
I'm on a 'U' fare this Friday night on the last nonstop flight to LAX and there's 4 available seats up front on the seat map; however, nothing available on KVS. No 5-day advance EUA for a NW PE here (perhaps I'm travelling on a heavy route on a popular day/time).
I'm on a 'U' fare this Friday night on the last nonstop flight to LAX and there's 4 available seats up front on the seat map; however, nothing available on KVS. No 5-day advance EUA for a NW PE here (perhaps I'm travelling on a heavy route on a popular day/time).
Jan 18, 2007 | 10:23 pm
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Jan 18, 2007 | 10:34 pm
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NW Plat here traveling on a "V" fare PHX-EWR tonight. No EUA, no check-in EUA, and FC looks full so probably no battlefield upgrade.
Jan 18, 2007 | 10:40 pm
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Jan 18, 2007 | 10:40 pm
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Friday night, EWR-LAX? That's a tough one.
Jan 19, 2007 | 4:47 am
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The empty seats on the seat map mean nothing. Some passengers have no seat assignments. If there are zero seats to sell then there will be no seats left for upgrades. The route you are on is one with very little chance of an elite upgrade.
Jan 19, 2007 | 5:07 am
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Anyone care to comment on upgrade chances on the EWR-DEN and the DEN-IAH routes? I'm a SkyTeam Elite Plus and am not sure if CO extends this benefit to KLM-ers.
General comments on the following flights?
CO 228
CO 642
thanx
General comments on the following flights?
CO 228
CO 642
thanx
Jan 19, 2007 | 6:36 am
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With virtual certainty, you'll be in coach. I've never been upgraded from SFO to EWR on any CO flight, the red eye included. There are bound to be lots of Platinums with full Y fares in coach too.
Advice: If you want a nicer plane, a bag of free pretzels, fly CO. If you want to get upgraded more on a worse plane with the constant fear of how bad coach is if the upgrade doesn't come through, fly NWA.
Another thing about CO: They can't hold a schedule through EWR. If you have a connection tighter than 2 hours, you might well be sorry. This problem will cost CO a huge amount of my business this year.
Advice: If you want a nicer plane, a bag of free pretzels, fly CO. If you want to get upgraded more on a worse plane with the constant fear of how bad coach is if the upgrade doesn't come through, fly NWA.
Another thing about CO: They can't hold a schedule through EWR. If you have a connection tighter than 2 hours, you might well be sorry. This problem will cost CO a huge amount of my business this year.
Last edited by mike_plat; Jan 19, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Jan 19, 2007 | 7:11 am
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I only got an upgrade on one SFO-EWR redeye upgrade in the past 12 months. Every other CO transcon was in coach. However, I have successfully upgraded each and every JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO that I requested with UA in Premium Service. And I'm Plat on CO, but only mid-tier on UA.
Jan 19, 2007 | 7:27 am
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CO will not extend elite upgrades to you as NW does. Only NW and CO elites are eligible for complimentary F upgrades.
Jan 19, 2007 | 7:44 am
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when it comes to the Transcons I dont even think about EUA, I simply look to see if I can get an aisle seat on the Exit Row, and Grab it.
Dont ever remember even bothering a GA and asking if the Up cleared. I figure if for some crazy reason I was UPed theyd be paging my name or the scanner will beep when they run my BP thru it and give me the UP BP instead. Happened twice so far that way. This way the GAs can concentrate with getting the flight out on time and any real problems that someone might have.
That is unless when I checked the flight the day of,it should that 1st was empty, but I would also assume that those on "Y"s and not some El Cheapo tkt like mine will get the UP anyway, but Id ask just the same. If it was near full I wouldnt ask but let the scanner do its thing.
Dont ever remember even bothering a GA and asking if the Up cleared. I figure if for some crazy reason I was UPed theyd be paging my name or the scanner will beep when they run my BP thru it and give me the UP BP instead. Happened twice so far that way. This way the GAs can concentrate with getting the flight out on time and any real problems that someone might have.
That is unless when I checked the flight the day of,it should that 1st was empty, but I would also assume that those on "Y"s and not some El Cheapo tkt like mine will get the UP anyway, but Id ask just the same. If it was near full I wouldnt ask but let the scanner do its thing.
Jan 19, 2007 | 7:53 am
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With virtal certainly, you'll be in coach. I've never been upgraded from SFO to EWR on any CO flight, the red eye included. There are bound to be lots of Platinums with full Y fares in coach too.
Advice: If you want a nicer plane, a bag of free pretzels, fly CO. If you want to get upgraded more on a worse plane with the constant fear of how bad coach is if the upgrade doesn't come through, fly NWA.
Advice: If you want a nicer plane, a bag of free pretzels, fly CO. If you want to get upgraded more on a worse plane with the constant fear of how bad coach is if the upgrade doesn't come through, fly NWA.
The other issue--specifically concerning transcons--is that CO primarily flies 738's without mid-cabin lavatory on these routes. This means being cooped up with up to 141 coach pax who only have 2 lavatories for over 6 hours.
Of course, NW doesn't fly transcon at all so it's not possible to make an exact comparison.
Another thing about CO: They can't hold a schedule through EWR. If you have a connection tighter than 2 hours, you might well be sorry. This problem will cost CO a huge amount of my business this year.
Jan 19, 2007 | 8:29 am
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, that premium passengers without seat assignments are more likely to no-show than passengers with seat assignemnts, all else being equal. I've seen it a handful of times on flights I was on that were sold-out in F with a few unassigned seats, and invariably a bunch of upgrades cleared at the gate.Once the flight checks in full, it becomes much more difficult to get the upgrade. (Hope for a misconnect or a bad traffic jam...)
Jan 19, 2007 | 9:06 am
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I do believe, in my heart , that premium passengers without seat assignments are more likely to no-show than passengers with seat assignemnts, all else being equal. I've seen it a handful of times on flights I was on that were sold-out in F with a few unassigned seats, and invariably a bunch of upgrades cleared at the gate.
Once the flight checks in full, it becomes much more difficult to get the upgrade. (Hope for a misconnect or a bad traffic jam...)
, that premium passengers without seat assignments are more likely to no-show than passengers with seat assignemnts, all else being equal. I've seen it a handful of times on flights I was on that were sold-out in F with a few unassigned seats, and invariably a bunch of upgrades cleared at the gate.Once the flight checks in full, it becomes much more difficult to get the upgrade. (Hope for a misconnect or a bad traffic jam...)