Which Way Will the Voting Go???
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Which Way Will the Voting Go???
Well, tomorrow's the day the Flight Attendants at CO vote on whether to take strike action or not over proposed pay cuts.
I can understand, and sympathise with, their frustration - all of us in the airline industry around the world have suffered pay cuts and much, much higher workloads since 09/11!!! However, CO is still making losses (while my own carrier is well into profit) and CO's position remains better than any of the other US "Heritage" carriers. I sincerely hope that a compromise can be reached without industrial action to help CO turn the corner!!!
In the UK, the Continental ground staff have had their pay cuts now for nearly a year - a year whilst talks have gone on, and on, and on with the flying crews. Is this fair???
I can understand, and sympathise with, their frustration - all of us in the airline industry around the world have suffered pay cuts and much, much higher workloads since 09/11!!! However, CO is still making losses (while my own carrier is well into profit) and CO's position remains better than any of the other US "Heritage" carriers. I sincerely hope that a compromise can be reached without industrial action to help CO turn the corner!!!
In the UK, the Continental ground staff have had their pay cuts now for nearly a year - a year whilst talks have gone on, and on, and on with the flying crews. Is this fair???
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Somehow I doubt that they'll vote to strike. I think this is going to be an approval of what the union negotiated for the employees.
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I sincerely hope the answer is "no" to strike action!!!
The damage different strikes did to BA was quite devastating - indeed, as employees, we're still paying dearly for them now!
Once your services stop and your customers suffer widespread disruption, the only way you win those customers back is by reducing prices or giving stuff away - eroding your elusive profit margins further and further!!!
My understanding is that Houston based employees (probably because they're closer to HQ and understand the company's position better) are expected to accept the new deal but Newark's employees remain the "unknown factor"!!!
The damage different strikes did to BA was quite devastating - indeed, as employees, we're still paying dearly for them now!
Once your services stop and your customers suffer widespread disruption, the only way you win those customers back is by reducing prices or giving stuff away - eroding your elusive profit margins further and further!!!
My understanding is that Houston based employees (probably because they're closer to HQ and understand the company's position better) are expected to accept the new deal but Newark's employees remain the "unknown factor"!!!
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Sadly, those in Houston drink to much of Larry's Kool-aid.
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I think they will vote YES
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Originally Posted by CalFlyGAL
Sadly, those in Houston drink to much of Larry's Kool-aid.
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From what I hear, EWR is aiming for another NO VOTE, but Houston and Cleveland are sounding like a yes vote
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Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite
From what I hear, EWR is aiming for another NO VOTE, but Houston and Cleveland are sounding like a yes vote
As a student, I'd be interested in hearing from you guys the reasons - or the general reasons at least - as to why some support the new contract and others do not.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by J.Edward
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As a student, I'd be interested in hearing from you guys the reasons - or the general reasons at least - as to why some support the new contract and others do not.
As a student, I'd be interested in hearing from you guys the reasons - or the general reasons at least - as to why some support the new contract and others do not.
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Originally Posted by CalFlyGAL
Sadly, those in Houston drink to much of Larry's Kool-aid.
Last edited by cigarman; Jan 17, 2006 at 4:38 pm
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Sadly there are plenty of people that complain for a living. I feel like that everytime people post on here that upgrades are impossible even for Plats, and that redeeming miles is not possible either.. a la Nonepass.
I find both easy
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I find both easy
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Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite
Sadly there are plenty of people that complain for a living. I feel like that everytime people post on here that upgrades are impossible even for Plats, and that redeeming miles is not possible either.. a la Nonepass.
I find both easy
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I find both easy
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Just don't go on strike - I have to fly to PBI on Thursday for a "conference" [aka, golf]. Of course, I will not be upgraded and would probably have a heart attack if I was!
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lets not forget EWR cost of living is probably
alot tougher to deal with than in Cleveland(where I am from) and Houston Texas.
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Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite
The sad thing I am hearing is that most seem to want to vote no not because of what was on offer, but because the company tied the strike vote to the contract vote, thus putting extra pressure on the flight attendants. This seems to be making many of them to want to cut off their own noses to spite the face.
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Originally Posted by CALflyboi
The company has nothing to do with the strike vote. The strike vote is called by the union.
1: To strike (that's what I thought it was)
2: To accept the new terms (I thought the union already agreed to a new contract back in Dec)
3: Other?
4: A combination of 1 & 2 (but why would the union schedule the strike vote on the same day as a contract vote? Or, in other words, is someone (the union or CO) trying to goad/pressure the FA's into a particular course of action? If so, why?
Thanks - and best wishes to the FAs out there! We do appreciate your hard work!

PS: Only after Cigarmans post did I get the Kool-Aid reference. For you see, my generation (Generation NOW!) associates Kool-Aid with the big Kool-Aid wall-busting pitcher whose tag line is ooooh yeaaaah. Corporate branding at young age I guess.

