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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 1:55 pm
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Define Riff-Raff?

Dear Colleagues:

I'm trying to catch up on the glossary of terms used in the threads and most I'm getting because of context. But what is "Riff-Raff"? Folks who are upgraded and are rude? How do we distinguish them from folks who buy the seat and are rude?

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by pphillips3
But what is "Riff-Raff"? Folks who are upgraded and are rude?FPP
Negative. Folks who attain status via trips from personal funds and trashy fare buckets [L, T, S].
Long live the Riff-Raff! ^
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 3:00 pm
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Outside of FT, a variety of definitions, synonymous with words like proletarian and nincompoop.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 3:35 pm
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there are several FT meanings of "Riff-Raff"
1) Riff Raff Plat/elites - elites(platinums) who earn their status via bottom of the barrell fare buckets(X,S, T, L). With extremely well-planned out runs, RR plat can be had for under $2000.
2) Riff-Raff pax - leisure travelers (see the show Airline)
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 4:20 pm
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I have no idea what pax pay for tickets, but I have learned not to judge people based on appearance, age, etc. Sometimes these are CO's top customers. I, however, NEVER want to see a guys feet or armpits on a flight.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by entropy
via bottom of the barrell fare buckets(X,S, T, L).
make sure to get them all (Q, I, S, W, T, X, L)

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With extremely well-planned out runs, RR plat can be had for under $2000.
I need you to start booking my flights, that's like 2.6 cents/mile. Hard to do if yoou ask me
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 4:33 pm
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my best this year is:
1.8c/EQM
and 0.6c / RM

channa can do better than I, however.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by entropy
my best this year is:
1.8c/EQM
and 0.6c / RM
But how many miles did you do at that? Enough for Plat?

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channa can do better than I, however.
and probably better than about 99 and 4/100 of the other folks on here
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 5:37 pm
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I made platinum at a rate of 5.1c/EQM, or roughly $4,000, all transcon. (That's still riff-raff.)
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 5:48 pm
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Or maybe to those who actually pay for their FC seat, a riff-raff might be anyone sitting in FC who did not actually pay for the seat - i.e. most people on here by the look of it!
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by entropy
there are several FT meanings of "Riff-Raff"
1) Riff Raff Plat/elites - elites(platinums) who earn their status via bottom of the barrell fare buckets(X,S, T, L). With extremely well-planned out runs, RR plat can be had for under $2000.
2) Riff-Raff pax - leisure travelers (see the show Airline)
So how do you call a top Tier flier pay out of own pocket bu only F/A fare (occacional C if F not available) Raff-Riff???
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 6:16 pm
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There use to be a consistent loophole in CO's system. 5,244 EQMs which would yield 18,978 bonus miles to a Plat with the Chase double mile bonus (the extra 2K came from the co.com online booking bonus by making to tickets instead of one). $.0176 / EQM, $.0048 / bonus mile = Plat for only $1,320.

People posted this in the MR forum repeatedly and CO wised up and 'fixed' the problem. Moral of the story: if you dont want to ruin a good deal -- dont post it, PM it!

PS. channa was the one who showed me this
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 6:35 pm
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RIFF RAFF can be defined as some CO commuters.

I did EWR LAX this week and was in 8C. 3 CO Flight Attendants came in (orthopedic shoes and all) with two having 4 bags and 1 have five bags (not including purses). Little bit later in the flight I found out that they had just come in from HKG and was pissed that they couldnt find overhead space to stow their trunks. Short of demanding their bags be stowed in the midcabin closet- they did. Then about half way thru the flight I was awakened to a loud grunt. I thought - what the hell! The grunt was all three of them snoring louder than a jack hammer on the sidewalk. I though RIFF RAFF
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 7:10 pm
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But how many miles did you do at that? Enough for Plat?
Bargain basement (Riff raff) fares account for about 15% of my EQM
most my EQM come from going to TLV in BF (30k EQM a pop, and @ nominal cost of 2600 (8.6c/eqm)) but it paid BF.
so Plat = 2 RT + a little domestic flying.
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