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Old Oct 15, 2006, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by thenewflesh
Is there a way to only look up F inventory without getting the "No Availability" for standard award buckets?
Unfortunately, no: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=11
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Old Oct 15, 2006, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by ICanSeeForMiles
if i'm using flying blue mileage to book on CO which fis the relevant fare bucket for both econ and biz. is it G and R, or something else.
It's G & E.
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Old Oct 21, 2006, 9:15 pm
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Still learning how to use this KVS tool...hope its ok to keep asking as I learn....todays question...

Is there a way for CO (with or without KVS) to see when a flight is oversold?
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Old Oct 22, 2006, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by CLEHillbilly
Is there a way for CO (with or without KVS) to see when a flight is oversold?
No, and no. That information is only available to CO employees.
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Old Oct 26, 2006, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
If you are unable to retreive your CO PNR using Worldspan, take a look at KVS Tool FAQ Part 3 (link below):

Still cant do it, but I am guess that is because I bought directly from CO?
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Old Oct 28, 2006, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by MBM3
Still cant do it, but I am guess that is because I bought directly from CO?
Yes...
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Old Jan 9, 2007, 9:23 pm
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Please note that the top post has been updated to reflect the latest changes:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...61#post6964161
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...24#post7063824

While there is currently no way to see CO F-class availability directly, if one knows (or can establish) the correlation between the the standard business award class (E/CS) availability, the non-restricted business award availability (P/CA) and the upgrade availability, then upgrade availability can be estimated using those factors ...

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Old Jan 23, 2009, 10:22 am
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Top post updated to reflect http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/conti...16-2009-a.html
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Old Jul 4, 2011, 4:28 pm
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The top post has been updated with the latest information, including the recent addition of support for CO Upgrade/SWU Availability in the KVS Tool.

Award Availability for Virgin Atlantic [VS], a OP Redemption Partner, is coming soon. The Beta sign-up form is currently available on the KVS Tool Homepage (http://www.KVSTool.com/).
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Old Aug 1, 2011, 3:35 pm
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The top post has been updated with the information on the new [Awards-Upgrades/CO] Method, which replaces the previous [Upgrades/CO] Method in KVS Tool Version 6.4.0, which is now available for download at http://www.KVSTool.com/

The supported CO Booking Classes Chart (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes) has now also been expanded accordingly:

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Old Nov 15, 2011, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Looks like Amadeus - Enhanced Seat Maps. I get the error:

"Error Retrieving Seat Map Data: Unable to initialize the Seat Map engine"

Hmmm...seems dependent on the query. Not all queries cause a problem, however clicking on any of the non-stop flights in the query below seem to give the error:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/CO]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
FRI  09 Dec 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CO         1614    LAX   00:30     IAH   05:35     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R4 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         1410    LAX   06:40     IAH   11:53     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R2 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N9 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         1744    LAX   07:50     IAH   13:05     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R9 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1682    LAX   11:05     IAH   16:19     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K7 G7 N9 XN7 X0 ON0
CO         1565    LAX   11:51     IAH   17:05     738      F2 JN2 A2 ZN1 PN8 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         46      LAX   12:30     IAH   17:44     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R7 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X2 ON0
CO         1523    LAX   13:15     IAH   18:30     738      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N5 XN0 X0 ON0
CO         53      LAX   14:40     IAH   19:48     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN9 PN9 R4 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1046    LAX   17:15     IAH   22:21     753      F9 JN9 A9 ZN7 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1694    LAX   19:15     IAH   00:21 +1  738      F1 JN1 A1 ZN0 PN9 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9 ON0
CO         1007    LAX   09:30     IAH   14:44     752      F0 JN0 A0 ZN0 PN5 R0 RN0 O0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K1 G1 N9 XN1 X0 ON0
All of the above flights are actually non-stop. However, for some reason, the [Enhanced Seat Maps] Engine currently sees them as being UA-coded only, which, in turn, causes the error.
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Odd, must be a recent change. I've checked these within the last few days. Maybe an effect of the merger?
Yes, most likely.

Originally Posted by jasonvr
Ohh, and I had trimmed out the connecting flights which is why they were all non-stop The query brings back connecting flights as well.

I also ran into something on another query with seat maps, maybe related? It was telling me that a certain cabin didn't exist on the flight. It was a CO flight and I was checking for business (which used to work). However it would let me bring up F which would be more typical of UA.
Indeed, CO's 'Classic' Domestic C Cabin is now gone in external systems:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
FRI  09 Dec 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------
CO         1614    LAX   00:30     IAH   05:35     738      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0
CO         1410    LAX   06:40     IAH   11:53     738      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N9
CO         1744    LAX   07:50     IAH   13:05     753      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9
CO         1007    LAX   09:30     IAH   14:44     752      F0 A0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K1 G1 N9
CO         1682    LAX   11:05     IAH   16:19     738      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K7 G7 N9
CO         1565    LAX   11:51     IAH   17:05     738      F2 A2 P1 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0
CO         46      LAX   12:30     IAH   17:44     753      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9
CO         1523    LAX   13:15     IAH   18:30     738      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N5
CO         53      LAX   14:40     IAH   19:48     753      F9 A9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9
CO         1046    LAX   17:15     IAH   22:21     753      F9 A9 P7 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9
CO         1694    LAX   19:15     IAH   00:21     738      F1 A1 P0 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9
[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Amadeus Seat Map: 09 Dec 2011/CO 46/LAX-IAH/753/F-First]
Code:
     A   B    |   E   F    
 1   +   -        +   +    
 2   +   -        -   +    
 3   -   -        +   -    
 4   +   +        -   +    
 5   +   +        +   +    
 6   +   +        +   +    

[+] Available     [W] Wing       [L] Lavatory  
[-] Unavailable   [E] Exit Row   [U] Upper Deck
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Old Dec 4, 2011, 11:41 am
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Inconsistency between CO website and KVS. The website is showing R3 RN3 I3 IN3. But KVS is showing:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.8.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/CO]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
FRI  09 Dec 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CO         1744    LAX   07:50     IAH   13:05     753      F6 JN6 A6 ZN6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN0 X0 P6
This is true whether logged in as an elite or as a general member. Further confirmed because my reservation is allowing up to 3 more seats to be upgraded to with miles.

Edit:
More information. It seems that if I do a regular flight search it does come up as 0 for all four fare classes. However, if I click on the fare class from my reservation it lists 3 across the board. Weird.
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Old Dec 4, 2011, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Inconsistency between CO website and KVS. ...
this thread was posted today http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...line-reps.html
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Old Dec 4, 2011, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Interesting, but that is partner availability which should be MUCH easier to mess up than CO's own availability on their metal on their website.
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