Segment question
Nov 29, 2001 | 1:19 pm
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Segment question
Here is something I haven't come across before. Just wondering if I am missing out on something.
This morning I flew from LGA-CLE-FLL on flight number 1251. On my online itinery and the boarding pass/reciept it says LGA-FLL.
I had to deplane in CLE and replane after one hour. I had the same seat and it was the same aircraft/flight number. However, the total OP miles shown online and the boarding pass show 1076.
Shouldn't this be 2 segments?
500 LGA-CLE
1062 CLE-FLL
My return lists this as 2 segments (although the flight numbers and deplane time is less)
This morning I flew from LGA-CLE-FLL on flight number 1251. On my online itinery and the boarding pass/reciept it says LGA-FLL.
I had to deplane in CLE and replane after one hour. I had the same seat and it was the same aircraft/flight number. However, the total OP miles shown online and the boarding pass show 1076.
Shouldn't this be 2 segments?
500 LGA-CLE
1062 CLE-FLL
My return lists this as 2 segments (although the flight numbers and deplane time is less)
Nov 29, 2001 | 1:38 pm
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Since the LGA-CLE-FLL route is all one flight number, for mileage calculation purposes, it's treated as if you flew LGA-FLL nonstop.
See also:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/002717.html
See also:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/002717.html
Nov 29, 2001 | 5:35 pm
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In the future, I wonder if it is worth trying to purchase the ticket using the mutiple destination option and choosing "LGA-CLE," "CLE-FLL," and "FLL-LGA"? I just threw sample dates of 1/25 and 1/27 into the computer, chose 1251 outbound and 484/3196 on the return, and it priced as $303 either way. The mutiple destinations option showed flight 1251 as two different segments with 500 and 1062 OnePass miles each, whereas the simple roundtrip option showed 1076 miles on the outbound portion of the journey.
This whole "single flight number" business is ludicrous since we all know that the "flight number" means almost nothing when it comes to deboarding and changes of planes.
This whole "single flight number" business is ludicrous since we all know that the "flight number" means almost nothing when it comes to deboarding and changes of planes.
Nov 29, 2001 | 6:21 pm
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I can't speak from personal experience as I avoid direct flights, but I suspect the CO web site isn't as smart as the OnePass computer. When OnePass credits segments/miles and sees flight 1251 LGA-CLE Jan. 25 and flight 1251 CLE-FLL Jan. 25 (same flight# and date), it will figure it out and credit LGA-FLL only.
Nov 29, 2001 | 9:03 pm
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If you do try and book it as two seperate legs make sure you get different seat assignments on each leg. Weird, I know. But occasional works. But don't count on it.
Nov 30, 2001 | 9:33 am
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My wife took a "direct" MSY-TUS flight last June.
This turned out to be one of those flights with "unscheduled change of aircraft" that left IAH before it arrived.
The consolation prize:
In addition to the MSY-TUS direct mileage she got OnePass credit for the CO IAH-LAS and HP LAS-TUS flights that actually got her home in the wee hours of the next morning.
cigarman: It used to be possible to get credit on each leg of HP "direct" flights by getting off at PHX and changing your assigned seat, but they seem to have "fixed" that
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This turned out to be one of those flights with "unscheduled change of aircraft" that left IAH before it arrived.
The consolation prize:
In addition to the MSY-TUS direct mileage she got OnePass credit for the CO IAH-LAS and HP LAS-TUS flights that actually got her home in the wee hours of the next morning.
cigarman: It used to be possible to get credit on each leg of HP "direct" flights by getting off at PHX and changing your assigned seat, but they seem to have "fixed" that
[This message has been edited by Old Gold (edited 11-30-2001).]
Nov 30, 2001 | 12:01 pm
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How do the airlines' get away with calling these flights "direct" and also crediting only one segment to FF'ers?
What is the explanation/justification?
(edited for stupid punctuation mistake)
[This message has been edited by pointman (edited 11-30-2001).]
What is the explanation/justification?
(edited for stupid punctuation mistake)
[This message has been edited by pointman (edited 11-30-2001).]
Nov 30, 2001 | 1:31 pm
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It's a stretch, but...
You don't have to pay the PFC at the stopping point on a direct flight. Less PFC revenue hurts the airport, therefore hurts the airline, and so you don't deserve the connecting mileage and two segments.
You don't have to pay the PFC at the stopping point on a direct flight. Less PFC revenue hurts the airport, therefore hurts the airline, and so you don't deserve the connecting mileage and two segments.
Nov 30, 2001 | 2:15 pm
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I actually tried to book the LGA-CLE-FLL on Continental.com and it was twice the price that I got.
First time for everything. You live you learn.
Thanks for the info everyone
First time for everything. You live you learn.
Thanks for the info everyone