Time Limit for return of ELTC's?
Feb 24, 1999 | 9:57 am
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crju: Sorry there isn't a link - that I know of - the guidebook is a book, made of paper, printed matter. The stuff before the web - OnePass obviously think we Europeans haven't grapsed the web yet (despite the fact we invented it). 
Nick
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Feb 24, 1999 | 4:10 pm
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OK Nick,
Ever heard of ARPANET? The only web invented across the pond was probably Charlotte's Web.
Ever heard of ARPANET? The only web invented across the pond was probably Charlotte's Web.
Feb 24, 1999 | 4:31 pm
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Merry/Rudi: I didn't think the Swiss were part of that "European" community.
The first proposal for such a system (World Wide Web) was made at CERN (Geneva Switzerland) by Tim Berners-Lee in 1989, and further refined by him and Robert Cailliau in 1990. By the end of that year, prototype software for a basic system was already being demonstrated. To encourage the adoption of the system, it was essential to offer access to existing information without having to convert it to an unfamiliar format. This was done by providing an interface to the CERN Computer Centre's documentation and help service, and also to the familiar Usenet newsgroups. All this information immediately became accessible via a simple WWW browser, which could be run on any system. And the rest is history (not that long ago--how did we manage with just that paper stuff!)
The first proposal for such a system (World Wide Web) was made at CERN (Geneva Switzerland) by Tim Berners-Lee in 1989, and further refined by him and Robert Cailliau in 1990. By the end of that year, prototype software for a basic system was already being demonstrated. To encourage the adoption of the system, it was essential to offer access to existing information without having to convert it to an unfamiliar format. This was done by providing an interface to the CERN Computer Centre's documentation and help service, and also to the familiar Usenet newsgroups. All this information immediately became accessible via a simple WWW browser, which could be run on any system. And the rest is history (not that long ago--how did we manage with just that paper stuff!)
Feb 24, 1999 | 7:07 pm
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"ELTCs are not accepted for flights over water,"
I've used ELTC's on lots of flights, that went over water.
Most of my flights, go over water, like the southern approach to ewr, flies right over both the outerbridge and the goethals bridge. Even the idiots at the PA, dont build bridges over land, so that must be water under them there bridges. Whether the water is it fit for humans is subject to debate.
I've used ELTC's on lots of flights, that went over water.
Most of my flights, go over water, like the southern approach to ewr, flies right over both the outerbridge and the goethals bridge. Even the idiots at the PA, dont build bridges over land, so that must be water under them there bridges. Whether the water is it fit for humans is subject to debate.
Feb 25, 1999 | 2:13 am
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Do not pass this point, those you do not want OMNI!
Tutt tutt tutt boys, no trying to re-write history please....
Tim Berners-Lee graduated from the Queen's College at Oxford University, England, 1976. He spent two years with Plessey Telecommunications Ltd a major UK Telecom equipment manufacturer, working on distributed transaction systems, message relay, and bar code technology.
In 1978 Tim left Plessey to join D.G Nash Ltd, where he wrote among other things typesetting software for intelligent printers, a multitasking operating system, and a generic macro expander.
A year and a half spent as an independent consultant included a six month stint as consultant software engineer at CERN, the European Particle Physics Laboratory in Geneva, Switzerland. Whilst there, he wrote for his own private use his first program for storing information including using random associations. Named "Enquire", and never published, this program formed the conceptual basis for the future development of the World Wide Web.
Now see what happens when two fine European countries - The UK and Switzerland - combine their efforts!
MF
Now shall we talk about who invented the computer....?
Tutt tutt tutt boys, no trying to re-write history please....
Tim Berners-Lee graduated from the Queen's College at Oxford University, England, 1976. He spent two years with Plessey Telecommunications Ltd a major UK Telecom equipment manufacturer, working on distributed transaction systems, message relay, and bar code technology.
In 1978 Tim left Plessey to join D.G Nash Ltd, where he wrote among other things typesetting software for intelligent printers, a multitasking operating system, and a generic macro expander.
A year and a half spent as an independent consultant included a six month stint as consultant software engineer at CERN, the European Particle Physics Laboratory in Geneva, Switzerland. Whilst there, he wrote for his own private use his first program for storing information including using random associations. Named "Enquire", and never published, this program formed the conceptual basis for the future development of the World Wide Web.
Now see what happens when two fine European countries - The UK and Switzerland - combine their efforts!
MF
Now shall we talk about who invented the computer....?
Feb 25, 1999 | 6:28 am
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OMNI-thread posting:
It's probably unseemly for a guy who grew up in SoCal to defend a Texan but...
Jaws is right. The ability to actually run the internet (a WAN) was funded by US taxpayers and developed by ARPANET. I first logged on "the internet" in 1975 -- whilst Mr. Berners-Lee was still chasing tail (or whatever) at Queen's College (Catman -- isn't that in NYC??)...
Mr. Berners-Lee et al were instrumental in developing the tools to let the common man clog the bandwidths of the world and have so many wonderfully slow-loading pages full of ludicrous animations and graphics! Of course it also gave us FT and how could we possibly survive without that?!
Having said all that:
"Now see what happens when two fine European countries - The UK and Switzerland - combine their efforts!" Here here! We need lots more of that and a lot less of the garbage we see in so many parts of the world...
And with that, onefreeman exits stage left --
It's probably unseemly for a guy who grew up in SoCal to defend a Texan but...
Jaws is right. The ability to actually run the internet (a WAN) was funded by US taxpayers and developed by ARPANET. I first logged on "the internet" in 1975 -- whilst Mr. Berners-Lee was still chasing tail (or whatever) at Queen's College (Catman -- isn't that in NYC??)...
Mr. Berners-Lee et al were instrumental in developing the tools to let the common man clog the bandwidths of the world and have so many wonderfully slow-loading pages full of ludicrous animations and graphics! Of course it also gave us FT and how could we possibly survive without that?!
Having said all that:
"Now see what happens when two fine European countries - The UK and Switzerland - combine their efforts!" Here here! We need lots more of that and a lot less of the garbage we see in so many parts of the world...
And with that, onefreeman exits stage left --
Feb 25, 1999 | 7:55 am
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Sorry to be the guy that returns to the original subject but, crju enters stage right.
I packed up my 12-ELTS certificates today and mailed them to Continental (mailing cost 54 cents) referencing the page numbers you quoted.
Cross your fingers and I will post the result (if they reply).
See ya,
crju
[This message has been edited by crju (edited 02-25-99).]
I packed up my 12-ELTS certificates today and mailed them to Continental (mailing cost 54 cents) referencing the page numbers you quoted.
Cross your fingers and I will post the result (if they reply).
See ya,
crju
[This message has been edited by crju (edited 02-25-99).]
Feb 25, 1999 | 8:03 am
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crju: Nice recovery!
Let us know how you get on. (Are you a US or European - or somewhere else - member?)
MF
Let us know how you get on. (Are you a US or European - or somewhere else - member?)
MF
Feb 25, 1999 | 2:42 pm
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Ahem, Merry, my web-savvy friend... please note the little highlighted "INFO" link.
Mouse over to it, and click to find out more about crju.
Mouse over to it, and click to find out more about crju.
Feb 25, 1999 | 4:12 pm
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Thank you Cruj for getting us back on topic! The cat Cops salute you.
OMNI for OneFreeman: Queens COllege is indeed in NYC> It' sa good liberal Arts school, part of the City University system. Several of my friends graduated from there.
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OMNI for OneFreeman: Queens COllege is indeed in NYC> It' sa good liberal Arts school, part of the City University system. Several of my friends graduated from there.
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Feb 26, 1999 | 12:50 am
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Bab's: My crusty old comrade, I am well aware that crju is currently halled-up in the US, however, I didn't want to be so arrogant as to assume he was enrolled in the US scheme.
People move, global village etc etc you of all people should know that my little African Queen.
MF
People move, global village etc etc you of all people should know that my little African Queen.
MF
Feb 26, 1999 | 6:47 am
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To answer your question, I am US. Mother is of Scottish background and father is of Austrian background.
I travel to Europe ever year and spend about 2 weeks to a month (pending work commitments).
So far, I have lived in Mississippi, New York, Florida, California, and now Texas.
Currently debating on moving to New Zealand.
Thanks for the question,
crju
I travel to Europe ever year and spend about 2 weeks to a month (pending work commitments).
So far, I have lived in Mississippi, New York, Florida, California, and now Texas.
Currently debating on moving to New Zealand.
Thanks for the question,
crju
Feb 26, 1999 | 8:55 am
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I lost my last ELTC certificate when I "accidently" handed it in with a ticket booked in FC using a 10,000 mile one way reward. At least I still have the 10K certificate!
Feb 26, 1999 | 9:16 am
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Merry, Don't go there! What about the ABACUS? Now, if you qualify with the descriptor, 'electronic', we have a contest.
Feb 26, 1999 | 9:55 am
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Jaws: I'm sorry but I forgot that the US history books differ from the rest of the world's!
I think the best solution is that we let this lie until the party-in-paradise, when we can have a head-to-head debate on the history of the computer and internet.
Catman can of course adjudicate. Rudi can referee. Bab's can keep score - she is very good with maths.
Pberret can look at the discussion from a different angle and BlondeBomber can try and convince us Air Canada invented the computer and KatW can do whatever she likes!
What do you think? Shall I contact the committee or will you?
MF
I think the best solution is that we let this lie until the party-in-paradise, when we can have a head-to-head debate on the history of the computer and internet.
Catman can of course adjudicate. Rudi can referee. Bab's can keep score - she is very good with maths.
Pberret can look at the discussion from a different angle and BlondeBomber can try and convince us Air Canada invented the computer and KatW can do whatever she likes!
What do you think? Shall I contact the committee or will you?
MF