Odd EWR-Florida EUA Behavior this Sunday
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Odd EWR-Florida EUA Behavior this Sunday
I noticed that quite a few flights from EWR to FLL this Sunday have wide open FC cabins - including a couple 757-300s. Even PBI is showing a good amount of available seats, given so many FC seats on that route are booked at full Y.
My EUA did not run, and it does not appear anyone elses' did either - the flight I am on is totally wide open - only one seat taken. Is it possible some of these flights are being totally missed by the system and will run the day of departure or possibly cleared by the GA? It seems quite odd, because usually this flight clears for me at the Plat time window, and by Friday there are usually only 2 or 3 seats left open. I have never seen the cabin that empty a couple days before departure.
My EUA did not run, and it does not appear anyone elses' did either - the flight I am on is totally wide open - only one seat taken. Is it possible some of these flights are being totally missed by the system and will run the day of departure or possibly cleared by the GA? It seems quite odd, because usually this flight clears for me at the Plat time window, and by Friday there are usually only 2 or 3 seats left open. I have never seen the cabin that empty a couple days before departure.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I noticed that quite a few flights from EWR to FLL this Sunday have wide open FC cabins - including a couple 757-300s. Even PBI is showing a good amount of available seats, given so many FC seats on that route are booked at full Y.
My EUA did not run, and it does not appear anyone elses' did either - the flight I am on is totally wide open - only one seat taken. Is it possible some of these flights are being totally missed by the system and will run the day of departure or possibly cleared by the GA? It seems quite odd, because usually this flight clears for me at the Plat time window, and by Friday there are usually only 2 or 3 seats left open. I have never seen the cabin that empty a couple days before departure.
My EUA did not run, and it does not appear anyone elses' did either - the flight I am on is totally wide open - only one seat taken. Is it possible some of these flights are being totally missed by the system and will run the day of departure or possibly cleared by the GA? It seems quite odd, because usually this flight clears for me at the Plat time window, and by Friday there are usually only 2 or 3 seats left open. I have never seen the cabin that empty a couple days before departure.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Is it possible some of these flights are being totally missed by the system
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For the last second purchases, I say give out the upgrades and open up Y inventory.
If these procrastinating passengers only buy at the last second and probably don't fly too much, I'm of the opinion they deserve coach seating!
Reward those who are loyal and give the once-in-a-while passenger exactly what they pay for: a singular seat.
If these procrastinating passengers only buy at the last second and probably don't fly too much, I'm of the opinion they deserve coach seating!
Reward those who are loyal and give the once-in-a-while passenger exactly what they pay for: a singular seat.
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Originally Posted by fly co to see the yanks
no. it's not possible. they are trying to sell them.
I don't see it happening, given CO wants almost double for their FC ticket over what DL/AA/NW/US,etc. is charging for theirs.
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Originally Posted by BumpMe!
For the last second purchases, I say give out the upgrades and open up Y inventory.
If these procrastinating passengers only buy at the last second and probably don't fly too much, I'm of the opinion they deserve coach seating!
Reward those who are loyal and give the once-in-a-while passenger exactly what they pay for: a singular seat.
If these procrastinating passengers only buy at the last second and probably don't fly too much, I'm of the opinion they deserve coach seating!
Reward those who are loyal and give the once-in-a-while passenger exactly what they pay for: a singular seat.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
If they think they can sell 17 FC seats on this one flight, plus all the other seats on flights being held back - especially given that coach is still wide open - then I say "best of luck"
I don't see it happening, given CO wants almost double for their FC ticket over what DL/AA/NW/US,etc. is charging for theirs.
I don't see it happening, given CO wants almost double for their FC ticket over what DL/AA/NW/US,etc. is charging for theirs.
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Same thing happened last week to me. My CLE-FLL & FLL-CLE were maxed out at F9 for days. Looks like revenue mgmt is holding out on releasing seats.
EUA ran at the 3 hour mark and I got my upgrade. Planes left with empties in first.
EUA ran at the 3 hour mark and I got my upgrade. Planes left with empties in first.
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Originally Posted by joebeenyc
Same thing happened last week to me. My CLE-FLL & FLL-CLE were maxed out at F9 for days. Looks like revenue mgmt is holding out on releasing seats.
EUA ran at the 3 hour mark and I got my upgrade. Planes left with empties in first.
EUA ran at the 3 hour mark and I got my upgrade. Planes left with empties in first.
Same here. My flight from IAH to CLE this week was showing 6 738 seats open the morning of the flight. My EUA cleared while I was inbound from LAX.
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I know we ALL hate it when we have to wait one minute past our upgrade window to be confirmed into first. However, consider that CO is trying to walk a fine line between profit and providing benefits to their elite customers. If the seat can sell for despairately needed revenue why give it away for free.
I know thats got to be a tough balancing act.
<exiting playing devils advocate mode> LOL
I know thats got to be a tough balancing act.
<exiting playing devils advocate mode> LOL
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Originally Posted by MBM3
Same here. My flight from IAH to CLE this week was showing 6 738 seats open the morning of the flight. My EUA cleared while I was inbound from LAX.
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I'm having the same issue with an IAH-DCA leg for Tuesday -- didn't upgrade at either 5 days or 3 days out. I'm assuming they're holding everything in hopes of selling the seats, as the flight is currently showing A8 D4 Z2 Y[and below]0...
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Does everyone really think that *more* first class seats are sold over thanksgiving weekend? I wouldn't have thought that to be true.
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Originally Posted by joebeenyc
I know we ALL hate it when we have to wait one minute past our upgrade window to be confirmed into first. However, consider that CO is trying to walk a fine line between profit and providing benefits to their elite customers. If the seat can sell for despairately needed revenue why give it away for free.
I know thats got to be a tough balancing act.
<exiting playing devils advocate mode> LOL
I know thats got to be a tough balancing act.
<exiting playing devils advocate mode> LOL
As it turned out, I received the upgrade 48 hours before departure, apparently along with one other lucky contestant. I guess it was a light load of Platinums. At departure time, FC was full - however, this was one flight I almost wished I wasn't upgraded on and it was about as close as I had ever come to going back and sitting in coach for relief.
From his arrival at the boarding area, my rowmate was wheezing and breathing like he just finished the NY Marathon...this continued for the flight as the act of just reaching for the seat pocket set off another round of loud wheezing and nasal breathing. Once airborne, I was treated to repeated acts of nose blowing without tissue - the alternating thumb technique. The cherry on this sundae was the regularly scheduled release of flatulence that seemed to occur on roughly 80 second intervals.
I came close to paraphrasing that classic comedian by saying "take my EUA, please!" and bolting for the back, but Y was full. Needless to say, I spent about 20 minutes washing my hands after that flight and my laundry will be getting an extra dose of bleach tonight
Some people might find a quick read of the "Miss Manners" handbook abit helpful before heading out to the airport next time.
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More FC Sold Over Thanksgiving
Originally Posted by lensman
Does everyone really think that *more* first class seats are sold over thanksgiving weekend? I wouldn't have thought that to be true.
J.Edward
PS. On my return flight the inventory Saturday was A=3, D=2, Z=2 and on Sunday it went to A=3, D=2, Z=0. The first EUA window opens today (Mon) and I was wondering why the computer would drop the Z bucket (perhaps Z started to price cheaper then seats in coach?) Also, there are flights several days before hand that have open Z inventory a thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters

