Is the Island Hopper GUM-HNL an international flight?
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Is the Island Hopper GUM-HNL an international flight?
Hello everybody,
is the island hopper due to its intermediate stops in Micronesia and the Marshall Islands an international flight with the need to clear immigration at HNL? Or are there preclearance facilities at the intermediate stops, meaning it's a domestic flight for through travellers on the whole run GUM-HNL.
Thanks in advance for your kind feedback.
is the island hopper due to its intermediate stops in Micronesia and the Marshall Islands an international flight with the need to clear immigration at HNL? Or are there preclearance facilities at the intermediate stops, meaning it's a domestic flight for through travellers on the whole run GUM-HNL.
Thanks in advance for your kind feedback.
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Hello everybody,
is the island hopper due to its intermediate stops in Micronesia and the Marshall Islands an international flight with the need to clear immigration at HNL? Or are there preclearance facilities at the intermediate stops, meaning it's a domestic flight for through travellers on the whole run GUM-HNL.
Thanks in advance for your kind feedback.
is the island hopper due to its intermediate stops in Micronesia and the Marshall Islands an international flight with the need to clear immigration at HNL? Or are there preclearance facilities at the intermediate stops, meaning it's a domestic flight for through travellers on the whole run GUM-HNL.
Thanks in advance for your kind feedback.
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The other way around HNL-GUM, it certainly was treated as an international flight, and you had to clear immigration at GUM, but no bag pick up interestingly in transit.
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They could enter the US at their point of departure a la Bahamas or Canada.
Alternatively, the flight could arrive at an international concourse at HNL, and if you prove the immigration officer your travel started at GUM (by passport and boarding pass) you can enter the US without immigration formalities.
Alternatively, the flight could arrive at an international concourse at HNL, and if you prove the immigration officer your travel started at GUM (by passport and boarding pass) you can enter the US without immigration formalities.
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Somewhat. GUM follows US Immigration however has different customs duties than Hawaii. When you travel from GUM to HNL you have to clear US customs in HNL.
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You'd still be going through the process, just without showing a passport. And I doubt it would work this easily since there is too much room for faking it.
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You still need a passport to enter or leave GUM.
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Ok, thanks for your answers. So I go through US immigration twice on the same day, or thrice within two days. They will be thrilled about that
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island hopper to hnl will need to clear immigration and customs in hnl
flt 2 nonstop clear immigration in guam customs in hnl
flt 2 nonstop clear immigration in guam customs in hnl
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Also, for security reasons, at various points one side of the aircraft will have to de-plane while there is a security sweep of the airplane. I don't believe it requires any additional documentation but it is annoying....
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Wasn't annoying me -- I got off the plane at every stop anyway to look around. If you fly GUM-HNL and don't want these stops and thus a much quicker trip, why not fly the non-stop? (sure, no EUA on CO2).
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It is creating potential risk for pilot/crew rest reqs. Further, it provides no further security. Yes, it's nice to look around but it's yet another shortsighted TSA regulation.
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The Marshall Islands and the Federated States of Micronesia are foreign countries not in the Western Hemisphere. Definitely a regular, full immigration check when you arrive GUM or HNL. You must have a passport (book) even if you transit US-NRT-GUM, so hopping islands isn't any different. GUM has Guam customs and HNL has US customs. GUM transits should not involve picking up bags (because there are no "customs-domestic" flights from GUM), but immigration is mandatory (can't transit without visa, etc.)
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Again, thanks for all the helpfull answes, very much appreciated.
>>>If you fly GUM-HNL and don't want these stops and thus a much quicker trip, why not fly the non-stop?
I specifically want these stops (I "collect" countries, so this is the easy way to "get" Micronesia and the Marshall Islands), and I have to check my reservation every couple of days, because CO tend to rebook me onto CO2, presumably trying to be nice to me ("aaah, look at the poor fellow, booked himself on CO956 unwittingly, let's spare him the shock of five stops...")
>>>If you fly GUM-HNL and don't want these stops and thus a much quicker trip, why not fly the non-stop?
I specifically want these stops (I "collect" countries, so this is the easy way to "get" Micronesia and the Marshall Islands), and I have to check my reservation every couple of days, because CO tend to rebook me onto CO2, presumably trying to be nice to me ("aaah, look at the poor fellow, booked himself on CO956 unwittingly, let's spare him the shock of five stops...")