Better FF program - CO or DL?
#16


Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K
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DL was really a final, desperate attempt. After fiddling with the dates slightly, I was able to redeem a roundtrip JFK-SIN (via NRT) for 105,000 miles, not the cheapest, but, in my mind, a good value given the short leadtime.
Although only one example, I think this episode demonstrates that even an apparently unloved system can have its pluses.
Although only one example, I think this episode demonstrates that even an apparently unloved system can have its pluses.
Some of DL's intra-asia flights, especially NRT-HKG and NRT-SIN, are notoriously hard to find low level award, either Y or J. What makes it worse is that DL has no partner flying these routes.
#17
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Southern CT & Phoenix, AZ
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Took the DL (old NW metal) 747-400 HNL-ATL last August before they switched to using the A330 and agree that the service on this flight as well as the hard product in first was top notch. Was lucky enough to book this as a partner award with CO miles before they left SkyTeam. Would definitely redeem on this route again if available.
#18
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
Programs: DL SM Plat, B6 TrueBlue, UA MP, AAdvantage
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Given the fact the trip was booked only 10 days before departure, I felt 105,000 was reasonable.
Also, DL had plenty of availability on this route throughout August, whereas there was no avaialability on any other carrier I checked.
#19
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: ORD & MKE
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DL definitely for the upgrades. Even as a DL silver out of MSP I've had pretty good luck on upgrades. As far as CO goes, most of my CO flying is on jungle jets, so not much CO upgrading for me. O my main line flying, Ive had 2 trips that were entirely mainline, one was paid F, the other I was upgraded IAH-LAX on a 753 on the way there and LAX-IAH (753) and IAH-MSP (735) on the way back. I think it was unusual, even after I upgraded F was 14/24 and 3/8 for seats filled.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: New Orleans, LA
Programs: DL PM, AA Gold, A3 Gold, WN CP, and lots of points everywhere.
Posts: 344
I have always had good luck with redemptions on CO, but have limited experience with DL. It does seem from the experience of others (and some online searches I have done) that the DL miles are "worth less" (not worthless) so you just need to keep that in mind going in.
On the other hand, I hang on to our CO/UA miles. I was able to send my wife up to Chicago on relatively short notice over the 4th on the 15k + $85 award level and found two great thanksgiving routes for MSY-DEN on CO for 25k each. DL had nothing to offer us at those times and thanksgiving flights were starting to get expensive or inconvenient.
Not much exotic flying here (though a LOT of BA and soon AA miles in the bank).
Can't say much with regard to status. Should be DL FO in 2 weeks and Gold in about 6. Hope for a last minute match to CO and I'll figure out which I'll stick with next year. Was thinking hard about *A but the DL award upgrade option will get a test from me in October. As with many though, my wife gets the free tickets and I'll try to maintain status which means award upgrades won't help me a whole lot and her none at all.
#21


Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K
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Certainly 105,000 miles was considerably less than SQ, which was the only other availability I found for this itinerary. SQ had me on the waiting list for 240,000 miles (in Y).
Given the fact the trip was booked only 10 days before departure, I felt 105,000 was reasonable.
Also, DL had plenty of availability on this route throughout August, whereas there was no avaialability on any other carrier I checked.
Given the fact the trip was booked only 10 days before departure, I felt 105,000 was reasonable.
Also, DL had plenty of availability on this route throughout August, whereas there was no avaialability on any other carrier I checked.
#22
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Avoid DL like the plague, there needs to be award seats to get an upgrade right? Check awards to HNL at the low level for the time of the year you plan on travelling and also the numerous thread in th DL forum. If you have no choice and have to fly DL, at least credit the miles to AS and then you can redeem on AA which has much better awards.
#23

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Houston, TX
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DL also allows a free stopover on award tickets, which is huge. Just that you have to expect to pay 40K or more miles for a round trip domestic award ticket. Very hard to find 25K awards for DL domestic flights. In fact, nearly impossible unless you are extremely flexible with dates/routings/even O/D.
#24
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DL also allows a free stopover on award tickets, which is huge. Just that you have to expect to pay 40K or more miles for a round trip domestic award ticket. Very hard to find 25K awards for DL domestic flights. In fact, nearly impossible unless you are extremely flexible with dates/routings/even O/D.
#26
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Join Date: May 2010
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DL's Program
I have an upcoming opportunity to make several business class flights to the western Pacific on either Delta or Continental, and anticipate using the FF miles for reward travel within the CONUS and/or Hawaii. Which airline should I "invest" in, since it only seems to make sense to put all those miles in one account. Appreciate any insight on why I would choose one over the other. As of today, have a few more miles in DL than in my CO account. Thanks.
#28
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
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I have an upcoming opportunity to make several business class flights to the western Pacific on either Delta or Continental, and anticipate using the FF miles for reward travel within the CONUS and/or Hawaii.
Personally, I'd do some dummy itineraries for your possible destinations and see what works best in terms of saver availability. (For the AS flights to Hawaii, you might want to use alaskaair.com to look for saver inventory, as opposed to delta.dumb.)
#29
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SFO
Programs: DL DM/MM; UA Premier 1K; AA EXP; ICH Plat Ambassador
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If you can pay for Business, definitely do CO. The redemptions are much easier. In my recent experience, 1 OP mile = 2 SkyMiles. I'm not kidding.
#30


Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
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certainly 105,000 miles was considerably less than sq, which was the only other availability i found for this itinerary. Sq had me on the waiting list for 240,000 miles (in y).
Given the fact the trip was booked only 10 days before departure, i felt 105,000 was reasonable.
Also, dl had plenty of availability on this route throughout august, whereas there was no avaialability on any other carrier i checked.
Given the fact the trip was booked only 10 days before departure, i felt 105,000 was reasonable.
Also, dl had plenty of availability on this route throughout august, whereas there was no avaialability on any other carrier i checked.
sq ewr to sin non-stop has no y cabin. It is business class only. So. Are u sure it was y via fra?



