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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 6:14 pm
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On Grand Cayman, nobody beats Nick Buckley who now runs 2 - 6 packs and offers very personal service.
Hiscompany is called Red Baron. I don't have the web site on hand, but I'm sure a quick google search will find it.

I get down to Florida on a regular basis and I think that the West Palm area is a great deal that offers very good drift diving. The fish life and quantity is hard to match.
For an easy gathering, I vote for West Palm (that way I can dive and work on the same trip)
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 6:56 pm
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I am a certified assistant instructor and would make a serious attempt to attend such an outing. Unfortunately, new work has prolonged my absence from open water.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 7:00 pm
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I am PADI advanced certified but have not been diving in the past few years. Belize has got to be up there with the best dive locations.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 7:06 pm
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Hmmm...South Florida works for me...in fact I'll be there in early December...I understand The Wall at Biscayne National Underwater Park is a site to behold....
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:01 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
I don't scuba dive, but just know that you're not supposed to dive and fly, or is it fly and dive, no wait, drink and dive! ... or is it... ah heck, nevermind.

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Hey, in a very round-about way, you have brought up a valid concern when diving. Most places now will not let you schedule dives on your day of arrival or departure if you are flying.

Drinking and diving has always been a no no and is the reason I never made it out to the reef while in Aruba last month ...priorities, **** priorities!

I think a dive Do woould be great! I vote for the Caribbean. Caymans would be great

FewMiles can come along to make sure we drink/dive/fly within regulations

btw, American has a promotion called Dive for Miles where you get miles for courses, equipment, travel, etc. Here's the link to the information:

http://www.diveformiles.com/



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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 6:08 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
I don't scuba dive, but just know that you're not supposed to dive and fly, or is it fly and dive, no wait, drink and dive! ... or is it... ah heck, nevermind.

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The standard rule of thumb is that you should avoid flying 24 hours after diving. I've been diving on Nitrox for years and it theoretically gives you a little leeway. I've flown 14 hours after a dive with no problem. There are current studies being made with respect to this and the general thought is that 24 hours is too long.

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 6:26 am
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I guess I should clarify the rule regarding the relationship between flying and diving.

Flying before diving on the same day is generally accepted as okay. You should NEVER dive within the 24 hour window prior to flying. Some now use a 12 hour window, which of course is less conservative.

You guys probably remember this rule but here is its explanation anyway. When you dive the increased pressure of the water requires that you breath equivalently pressurized air to prevent your chest from collapsing. In this process your body begins to equalize within this increased pressure environment and thus absorb more nitrogen (air = 79%Nitrogen & 21% oxygen). Nitrogen is inert and for the most part merely sits in your system.

It takes time for this absorption process to occur. Where the problem arises is when pressure is released from your body too quickly and the "additional" nitrogen remains. If this occurs to quickly, then the analogy of opening a soda bottle and watching bubbles form will appropriately describe what is happening in your body.

So that is why we use dive tables for our own safety. However, dive tables do not account for the additional loss of pressure that occurs when you go aloft in an airplane. (Some new dive computers purport to do this.) As a result, scientists have formulated the aforementioned rule.

Here is a linkwith some valuable information.

I could get more technical with partial pressures but I think my basic explanation is functional.

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 9:27 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by I012609:
I am PADI certified and would definitely be up for a FT dive trip.</font>
Same here
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 4:43 pm
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Same here too.

And, some notes:

Thailand - it's just a puddle and is generally regarded as not the best place to go, if diving is your first priority.

Florida, the Keys, specifically Key Largo area - great places to dive around here, especially the wrecks, the 327' US Coast Guard cutter, the Duane, was my favorite. On a clear day, you can see it from the surface 120' down. On a crummy day, expect to throw up in your reg as you decompress. You are pulled back and forth, back and forth by the strong surge as you hang onto the tourist rope.

Ireland & N. Ireland - great place to dive because a) a small fee, paid beforehand, to an area dive club will insure use of their gear and their boat! It seems that is how they do things there, the clubs have their own boat and extra gear for paying visitors. And, b) you can collect! Dive places even advertise to all to come collect, collect, collect. Try even touching the bottom in Florida, let alone trying to collect a shell or, god forbid, an artifact. Do I remember correctly that it's like actually against the law? And, c) parts of Ireland, like on the coast of Waterford County are not cold at all (in the summer). In fact, this coastline is identical to Laguna Beach, CA with its sandy shores full of sea caves, rocky outcrops, sandy tidepools and, yes, water temperatures. And, d) It's inexpensive there. Try $30 a nite for a killer B&B right on the cliff above your beach. And, e) no crowds or competition. Since not that many have popularized diving in the area, the locals don't know how easy it is to go in and get the stuff they know is sitting out there waiting to be collected.

I have been trying to get people to go to Ireland and dive with me for so long, but it has to be in the summer months and with others who can use a drysuit. So, not much luck. Anyway, for now, I would be interested to see where you guys end up. Didn't someone mention Mexico? Depending on where you go, it's a blast from like November on because of the warmth and the whales. They come right into some of the small bays that are off the beaten path. It's an incredible experience to see them so close up.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 8:23 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lisamcgu:
Florida, the Keys, specifically Key Largo area - great places to dive around here, especially the wrecks, the 327' US Coast Guard cutter, the Duane, was my favorite. On a clear day, you can see it from the surface 120' down. On a crummy day, expect to throw up in your reg as you decompress. You are pulled back and forth, back and forth by the strong surge as you hang onto the tourist rope.</font>
Ahhh, the Keys That is where I was certified while living on a campground in Marathon. I'm up for any trip to the Keys. Will be moving back within the next two years.

Don't forget the Spiegel Grove...newest dive site.

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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 6:45 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">And, b) you can collect! Dive places even advertise to all to come collect, collect, collect.</font>
What kind of stuff did you get?

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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 9:29 am
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Ms. rtpflyer is a diver and wants me to monitor this thread for any definite plans (after her most recent surgery heals). I can (barely) snorkel, and will be looking for a destination that also has landside interest.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 5:37 pm
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Advanced. Been NASDS certified since 1982. Dove in Cayman in 1984 and in 1998. Its gone WAY down over the years I'm sorry to say guys.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 6:06 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hfly:
Its gone WAY down over the years I'm sorry to say guys.</font>
You are not alone hfly, most divers get their certification, go on a few dive trips and then basically hang it up.

why the decline?
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 9:00 pm
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My NAUI card has a cert date of July 1982. I enjoy diving on my vacations and on some work trips and have been doing so for years.

I have dove all over the world and one of my favorite places is the reef off the islands of Utila and Roatan in Honduras. Its the same reef as in Cozumel but with far fewer people. The locals there are the Garifuni which is a must meet for you list of peoples.
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