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mackenzie77 Mar 3, 2011 9:55 am

Some people might be interested in checking out the new high-speed rail that will connect Shanghai with Beijing in FOUR hours. That's basically NYC to ATL....

thyeri Mar 3, 2011 11:39 am

Attendance: Interested
# of attendees: 1
Hotel Preference: @ Home
Other suggested activities: Flexible


By the way, when will the G-train start service between Beijing and Shanghai??

meremale Mar 3, 2011 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by mackenzie77 (Post 15968383)
Some people might be interested in checking out the new high-speed rail that will connect Shanghai with Beijing in FOUR hours. That's basically NYC to ATL....

That sounds amazing. Start the DO in Shanghai, end in Beijing.:D

NYC101 Mar 4, 2011 7:35 am

Would love to find out the launch date of the new high-speed rail between BJ and SH. I have an open-jaw ticket booked into PEK and out of PVG for this DO. A 4 hour ride on the G-train definitely beats out sitting in Y on MU or CZ.

bennos Mar 5, 2011 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by NYC101 (Post 15973808)
Would love to find out the launch date of the new high-speed rail between BJ and SH. I have an open-jaw ticket booked into PEK and out of PVG for this DO. A 4 hour ride on the G-train definitely beats out sitting in Y on MU or CZ.

According to Wikipedia, 20 June 2011.

spaceman Mar 19, 2011 6:44 pm

bump :eek:

lili Mar 19, 2011 10:09 pm

thanks for the bump, spaceman.

am interested, but not finding airfare in my range.

still on the radar.

yul36 Mar 21, 2011 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by NYC101 (Post 15066556)
Nov 11-14 it is, folks who expressed interest, please update us if you become definite.

Attendance & Preference

Booked:

Definitely:
Spaceman +1 - Hilton & SPG
NYC101
UpgradedFirst
TravellerOnline
sstcobra - Hilton
wpyeh - IC
Ellyse (local)
Mackenzie77 +1 - SPG & IC
bschaff1 - Hyatt

Interested:
gvdIAD - Hilton
Condition One - SPG
uchuuace - Hilton
perthite - Hilton & IC
upup&away - Starwood & Hilton
karung99
FriendlySkies - Hyatt
tmartazu - Hyatt & SPG & IC
dedehans
jan_az - Hilton & Marriott
fsfguy - Local hotel over western chain for value
worldtraveller2
awc4 - Hyatt & SPG & Marriott
3LeftTurns
Lori_Q
bseller - SPG
falconea
chchkiwi
lili
aanswer - SPG
bennos - Marriott & Hilton
seacarl - SPG & Hilton
Jerseygirl17 - Marriott
restlessinRNO - Hilton
yul36 - SPG
cawhite
mrbrad
usa18dca +1 - SPG & Hyatt
8dimsum - SPG & Hyatt & Marriott
mnredfox
taiwaned +1 - SPG
UA_Flyer - Hyatt
JenGal +1 - SPG
meremale - SPG
ckpeter
CaseyN2 - SPG & Marriott
christinasc - SPG
zInSocal - SPG & Marriott
yang1980 - SPG
thyeri (home)

Please Confirm me, Looks like I will be in the region after all.

mnmag Mar 25, 2011 6:49 pm

Attendance: Interested!
Date Choice: Nov 11-14 (but it's too early to know for sure
# of attendees: 1
Hotel Preference: SPG; Hyatt
Other Suggested activities: Whatever the group decides

NYC101 Apr 4, 2011 12:38 pm

Bump...

mnmag Apr 4, 2011 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by lili (Post 16066921)
thanks for the bump, spaceman.

am interested, but not finding airfare in my range.

still on the radar.

Yes, -- I, too, am needing to find reasonable airfare!:eek:

mnmag Apr 4, 2011 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by NYC101 (Post 15973808)
Would love to find out the launch date of the new high-speed rail between BJ and SH. I have an open-jaw ticket booked into PEK and out of PVG for this DO. A 4 hour ride on the G-train definitely beats out sitting in Y on MU or CZ.

What dates are you booked for? I appreciate that the details & participation are still in discussion, -- esp. regarding add-on trip, etc., -- but it's difficult to know what dates to apply for the airfare search (esp. if some 'deal' happens to come along)!:eek:

abraxis Apr 6, 2011 12:17 pm

Am interested. 1 attending. SPG or Hyatt OK with me. What I'd like to see: something unusual that tourists don't usually have access to. Maybe something HSR or airport related?

bennos Apr 13, 2011 12:54 pm

I just came back from a week in Shanghai, so I am not sure if I'll go back for this DO (apparently China only issues double entry/six-month visas for first-time tourists, and I'm not sure that I want to spend another $140 and a day to get another visa), but I just wanted to point out that the brand new Courtyard-in-name-only Puxi is a good value, especially for those with Gold or Platinum status. It is also short walk to the train station from which many of the CRH trains leave.

If I do go, my new hotel preferences are Marriott or SPG.

spaceman Apr 14, 2011 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 16212235)
I just came back from a week in Shanghai, so I am not sure if I'll go back for this DO (apparently China only issues double entry/six-month visas for first-time tourists, and I'm not sure that I want to spend another $140 and a day to get another visa), but I just wanted to point out that the brand new Courtyard-in-name-only Puxi is a good value, especially for those with Gold or Platinum status. It is also short walk to the train station from which many of the CRH trains leave.

If I do go, my new hotel preferences are Marriott or SPG.

All that being said, what is your real opinion of Shanghai - could it eventually fill in for a second Asia DO after Singapore :confused:

mahasamatman Apr 14, 2011 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 16212235)
apparently China only issues double entry/six-month visas for first-time tourists

If true, it must be a recent change or it could depend on your consulate. We got 12-month multi-entry visas from the SF consulate for our first visit.

Slipless Apr 15, 2011 12:06 pm

Attendance: Interested!
Date Choice: Nov 11-14
# of attendees: 1
Hotel Preference: SPG;

bennos Apr 15, 2011 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by spaceman (Post 16221033)
All that being said, what is your real opinion of Shanghai - could it eventually fill in for a second Asia DO after Singapore :confused:

Oh, I had a great time in Shanghai, and if you've never been I recommend going. It's not really a tourist/holiday/lots-of-historical-culture oriented destination (3 or 4 days tops), though, kind of like Tokyo. Shopping is cheaper elsewhere (for higher end stuff, anyway), and other cities, like Singapore (also a 3 day city), have better food scenes.

I'd need a specific reason to go back. A FT DO may or may not be that reason for me, depending on agenda and cost.


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 16221189)
If true, it must be a recent change or it could depend on your consulate. We got 12-month multi-entry visas from the SF consulate for our first visit.

NY consulate. Dunno if it's a recent change or not, but I wasn't really in a position to argue.

mahasamatman Apr 17, 2011 9:55 am


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 16225912)
It's not really a tourist/holiday/lots-of-historical-culture oriented destination (3 or 4 days tops)

We were there for a month in 2007, and never ran out of things to do.

alicesantamonica Apr 23, 2011 11:03 pm

Attendance: Very interested
Date Choice: Nov 11-14
# of attendees: me and maybe mr alicesantamonica
Hotel Preference: JW Marriott
Other Suggested activities: Hangzhou, terracottas, Hong Kong or whatever the group decides

In and around Shanghai this week.

NYC101 Apr 25, 2011 12:12 pm

Just got back from PVG today. In fact I'm typing this at the DTW Skyclub as I wait for my conneting flight to NYC. Was there about 9 days on an DL Award ticket. I agree with Bennos when it comes to shopping, not cheap compare to come other cities. But I absolutely loved the food. Maybe it's because I opted for chinese cuisine rather than western cusine while I was there? As for things to do, I'm sure there are plenty as well.

My November open-jaw ticket into Beijing 11/6 and out of Shanghai 11/14 is also an award ticket open to change depends on what extra activities people are interested in.

mnmag Apr 25, 2011 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by NYC101 (Post 16277570)
Just got back from PVG today. In fact I'm typing this at the DTW Skyclub as I wait for my conneting flight to NYC. Was there about 9 days on an DL Award ticket. I agree with Bennos when it comes to shopping, not cheap compare to come other cities. But I absolutely loved the food. Maybe it's because I opted for chinese cuisine rather than western cusine while I was there? As for things to do, I'm sure there are plenty as well.

My November open-jaw ticket into Beijing 11/6 and out of Shanghai 11/14 is also an award ticket open to change depends on what extra activities people are interested in.

Thanks for the info. -- I will book an award tkt, as well, -- to preserve the flexibility, & snag saverpass while it's available!^

bennos Apr 26, 2011 7:10 am


Originally Posted by NYC101 (Post 16277570)
But I absolutely loved the food. Maybe it's because I opted for chinese cuisine rather than western cusine while I was there?

Oh, I had plenty of good food there, including some fantastic snacks at a train station, but for me it's like eating in Italy... no matter how fantastic and how locally variable, I get bored after a while and need something different. Compare against NY, SF, Singapore, etc, where there's not just wide variability within a cuisine, but across cuisines as well.

Anyway, a minor point, and I'm absolutely not trying to discourage anyone from going.

spaceman May 2, 2011 8:26 pm

bump - hate to see this on the last page..........:confused:

NYC101 May 6, 2011 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 16281857)
Oh, I had plenty of good food there, including some fantastic snacks at a train station, but for me it's like eating in Italy... no matter how fantastic and how locally variable, I get bored after a while and need something different. Compare against NY, SF, Singapore, etc, where there's not just wide variability within a cuisine, but across cuisines as well.

Anyway, a minor point, and I'm absolutely not trying to discourage anyone from going.

Point on, definitely feel blessed to be living in NYC. But for a week or two, I think most people shall be happy with the culinary scene in Shanghai. Plus, you'd really have to know where to look for the good non-chinese stuff in SH. Although expecting Jean Georges in SH to be on the same level as the one in NYC may be a little too much to ask. Oh well, at least the $188RMB set brunch/lunch is a pretty good bargain.

rbAA May 9, 2011 3:23 am


Originally Posted by spaceman (Post 16221033)
All that being said, what is your real opinion of Shanghai - could it eventually fill in for a second Asia DO after Singapore :confused:

There was an annual Asia Do on Labor Day weekend for many years until the Cow Do started. Had a great Do in Shanghai when GK and Sean were living in HK, in February I believe. I can't imagine getting bored with the food selection there from what I recall.

That said, as I'm living in Taichung now, I'm definitely interested, depending on my Taiwan visa situation. Coming back to Taiwan on July 2, a trip to Shanghai and USA, probably with a Taiwan multi entry 90 day, which would be difficult to do 11/11, but if I land the job and get an ARC, no problem.

On the issue of China visas, I have never had a problem getting one year multi entry L visas, as they are all the same price-US$140, so make some reservations for PVG or PEK in a 12 month period, awards are good especially if you don't have a redeposit fee like with AA EXP, and take those printouts to the visa office and just request the one year muti entry. Maybe it's the nice staff at the San Francisco visa office where I go for them.

wpyeh May 9, 2011 8:16 am


Originally Posted by rbAA (Post 16352144)
There was an annual Asia Do on Labor Day weekend for many years until the Cow Do started. Had a great Do in Shanghai when GK and Sean were living in HK, in February I believe. I can't imagine getting bored with the food selection there from what I recall.

That said, as I'm living in Taichung now, I'm definitely interested, depending on my Taiwan visa situation. Coming back to Taiwan on July 2, a trip to Shanghai and USA, probably with a Taiwan multi entry 90 day, which would be difficult to do 11/11, but if I land the job and get an ARC, no problem.

On the issue of China visas, I have never had a problem getting one year multi entry L visas, as they are all the same price-US$140, so make some reservations for PVG or PEK in a 12 month period, awards are good especially if you don't have a redeposit fee like with AA EXP, and take those printouts to the visa office and just request the one year muti entry. Maybe it's the nice staff at the San Francisco visa office where I go for them.

For US passport holder, you can enter TW with 30 days visa waiver should you proceed onward airticket (no extension).
If you have a 90 days multi-entry visa, you can go to Immigration office in Taichung (2 locations) for visa extension (60-90 days with vaild reservation or ticket, plus residence local police station registration).

Also there is a English hotline for questions: 0800-024-111 (from TW) although I never called before.

Taichung immigratoin office in Chinese character:
1. 臺中市南屯區干城街91號1樓 (old Taichung city)
TEL 04-22549981、04-22542545、04-22541803、04-22548930

2. 臺中市豐原區中山路280號 (old Taichung county)
TEL 04-25261087、04-25269777、04-25261052、04-25263974

For China visa, Lion travel (www.liontravel.com) can help to obtain in Taiwan with some fees (depends on single/double/mulitiple/3m/6m/12m or rapid service). Service charge might be a bit higher then you submit yourself back in US, but quite reliable.
However, visa regulation for China changes time to time and Chinese government never disclose any detail.

spaceman May 30, 2011 1:36 am

bump to the front of the bus

yang1980 Jun 1, 2011 8:45 am

Do you mean you can not enter TW without outgoing ticket with US passport? How about round trip ticket to TW from mainland china, is it ok for US citizen to enter Taiwan without visa?

rbAA Jul 13, 2011 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by yang1980 (Post 16484022)
Do you mean you can not enter TW without outgoing ticket with US passport? How about round trip ticket to TW from mainland china, is it ok for US citizen to enter Taiwan without visa?

You can enter TW on US passport, without showing an onward ticket. It is a 30 day Visa exempt status which means you must leave TW on or before the 30th day, not counting the date of arrival. For the 90 day visitor visa, single entry is US$140, I have been asked for proof of a ticket off the island on or before the expiration date of the 90 days. I received one extension of a 90 day visa, as I was leaving for vacation in the US in June, so got a free extension to my departure date, basically, an additional 30 days. 90 day extensions can be arranged for a sufficient reason (YRMV,) and payment of a NT$1000 fee at an Immigration Office.

lili Jul 21, 2011 2:20 pm

I'm looking pretty definite for this event, but haven't got anything booked or visa or any of that stuff yet.

spaceman Jul 25, 2011 3:25 am

We are moving forward to a great event ^ See these updated posts:


restlessinRNO Jul 25, 2011 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by spaceman (Post 16791820)
We are moving forward to a great event ^ See these updated posts:


spaceman - Thank you for your assistance in organizing this event. :-:

cyby Jul 26, 2011 4:03 am

I say I'm pretty interested in this. What's the deadline for this? (Never quite done a DO) I'm mostly based in HKG nowadays, so it's a short hop up.

spaceman Jul 26, 2011 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by cyby (Post 16798732)
I say I'm pretty interested in this. What's the deadline for this? (Never quite done a DO) I'm mostly based in HKG nowadays, so it's a short hop up.

At this time there is not deadline. The only issue/deadline may occur when we finalize the tours/dinners and if we need firm commitment to advise the providers. Off hand I would not expect that to be sooner than a week or so before the event.

cyby Jul 26, 2011 10:16 pm

I would say put me and a +1 down. Maybe bennos would come, too - I had a great time with him in Shanghai.

NewbieRunner Aug 1, 2011 6:23 pm

Time to bump the thread and to add...

Attendance: Very interested
Date: Nov 10-14
Number Attending: 1
Hotel Preference: Hilton
Other Activities: Trying to combine with a quick visit to TYO

I'll try and get an openjaw award using US miles but can't decide whether to go to Japan first or the DO first. I'll probably go to TYO first and fly HND-SHA since I'd like to see the new international terminal at HND, but I'm wondering what travelling into the centre from SHA is like with a fair amount of luggage.

I've never been to Shanghai or the mainland China for that matter and am very interested in attending this DO.

lili Aug 1, 2011 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by NewbieRunner (Post 16840365)
Time to bump the thread and to add...

Attendance: Very interested....
I've never been to Shanghai or the mainland China for that matter and am very interested in attending this DO.

Great news Newbie! I'm still iffy, but this is a definite plus

Anyone have simple info about getting visa?

cyby Aug 1, 2011 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by lili (Post 16840689)
Great news Newbie! I'm still iffy, but this is a definite plus

Anyone have simple info about getting visa?

As far as that is concerned - need to get it while still in the US. Long queues, but relatively painless otherwise. If you don't live in a city with a Chinese consulate, there are plenty of visa services that will get it done for you. Usually takes a few days - but you can have rush service for extra $.

Do need to fill in contact information in China though....

NewbieRunner Aug 7, 2011 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by lili (Post 16840689)
Anyone have simple info about getting visa?

I've found this visa FAQ in the China forum and a couple of threads linked from the post very useful.

I'm wondering if I should go ahead and book an award ticket while it's available. :)


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