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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)
Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. [B]We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.
MOST CURRENT LINKS:
As of 8/19/14, the 60K+ links are no longer working, and give the following error:
[This link stopped working for a few days in July but seems to be working again] Many thanks to LM225 - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 100,000 miles after $10,000 spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests, up to $200 in statement credits. $450 annual fee, not waived. Landing page no longer loads as of 6/24.
The landing page asks for a first and last name but the application loads with or without the landing page. This is a CHIP and Signature card. If you go through the landing page, please use any referral code given to you by an AC rep.
For alternate 100K links, see Post #6084. https://www.citicards.com/cards/acq/...&screenID=3001
Many thanks to lobo411 - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 75,000 miles after $7500 spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests, up to $100 in statement credits. $450 annual fee, not waived. No landing page. This is a CHIP and Signature card. Bonus confirmed in posts 136 and 142. Still working: There is also a public version of this offer Citi AA Mastercard, 75,000 miles, Landing page available here. HT Belllaaa.
Many thanks to cerealmarketer - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 60,000 miles after $5k spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests. $450 annual fee, not waived. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card. Landing page for 60K for $5K, with $100 statement credit and application.
Current 50K public offer: (Be carefull this link is showing as 30k in citi system, use other link for 50k) Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and application.
New 50k offer:
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit - Application Link WARNING: This landing page contains the following in the Footnotes: "American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months." But the app link directly following it goes to a totally different app page, which is reported to be working as usual.
EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.
Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.
Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.
This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.
Getting around the $450 annual fee: Some have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...ost-first.html. YMMV. If paying $250-$450 for a year's access to Admirals Clubs and the 60K-100K miles is a deal breaker, this card may not be for you.
Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days.
Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:
- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862
Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.
When do miles post? Usually a few days after your statement closes. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.
Please post more experiences about cancelling to avoid the $450 fee
Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.
2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.
2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279
3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.
Admiral Club Access: You do not need to be flying AA that particular day of travel. (Ex: you're flying DL on the day of travel...you could still enter the AC lounge, even though you're not on an AA flight that day.) Beware, though, that individual lounges have individual rules (see the link below). Alternate rules usually come w/ Qantas lounges, not AA lounges. Furthermore, AC access "comes with" US Air access (19 locations). An authorized user does not have AC access unless they are with the primary card holder. The authorized user's card will have the "Admiral Club" language omitted from the back of their card.
For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules
$200 Statement Credit on any purchase:
Multiple datapoints within this thread as well as multiple confirmations from CSRs say that the $200 statement credit is for any purchase.
Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.
What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.
Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331
Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668
Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k
Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,
If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...ost-first.html
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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)
Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. [B]We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.
MOST CURRENT LINKS:
As of 8/19/14, the 60K+ links are no longer working, and give the following error:
A system error has caused a delay in processing your application. Please try again later.
[This link stopped working for a few days in July but seems to be working again] Many thanks to LM225 - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 100,000 miles after $10,000 spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests, up to $200 in statement credits. $450 annual fee, not waived. Landing page no longer loads as of 6/24.
Current 50K public offer: (Be carefull this link is showing as 30k in citi system, use other link for 50k) Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and application.
New 50k offer:
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit - Application Link WARNING: This landing page contains the following in the Footnotes: "American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months." But the app link directly following it goes to a totally different app page, which is reported to be working as usual.
EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.
Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.
Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.
This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.
Getting around the $450 annual fee: Some have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...ost-first.html. YMMV. If paying $250-$450 for a year's access to Admirals Clubs and the 60K-100K miles is a deal breaker, this card may not be for you.
Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days.
Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:
- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862
Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.
When do miles post? Usually a few days after your statement closes. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.
Please post more experiences about cancelling to avoid the $450 fee
Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.
2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.
2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279
3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.
Citibank Contacts/Resources
- Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
- (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
- (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
- (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
- (888) 201-4523 – Application status
- (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
- Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
- Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117
For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules
$200 Statement Credit on any purchase:
Multiple datapoints within this thread as well as multiple confirmations from CSRs say that the $200 statement credit is for any purchase.
Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.
What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.
Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331
Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668
Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k
Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,
If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...ost-first.html
Citi Executive AA MasterCard [October 2013 - September 2014]
Aug 2, 2014, 11:52 am
#8386
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 571
If the 75k goes away, I won't shed too many tears if the 60k stays. Getting 15k extra is nice, but spending an extra $2.5k in a short time period may not really be worth it.
If hard pulls WEREN'T an issue (which of course they are to some mysterious degree), you'd actually be better off just doing a series of 60k's over a long period of time IF you don't plan on paying the annual fees (save the moralizing):
2 75k's = 150k miles = $15k spend = $200 statement credits
3 60k's = 180k miles = $15k spend = $300 statement credits
If hard pulls WEREN'T an issue (which of course they are to some mysterious degree), you'd actually be better off just doing a series of 60k's over a long period of time IF you don't plan on paying the annual fees (save the moralizing):
2 75k's = 150k miles = $15k spend = $200 statement credits
3 60k's = 180k miles = $15k spend = $300 statement credits
3 100k's + 3 10k's + $600 = 330k and $600 = raise your jazz hands
3 75K's + 3 7.5K's + $300 = 247.5K and $300 = great bonanza
3 60k's + 3 5K's + $300 = 195k and $300 = notably smaller bonanza
At 60k we will be dangerously close to other offers with different uses.
Aug 2, 2014, 1:13 pm
#8387
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,273
Anyone had an authorized user shut down? I am the AU on spouse's account. Made purchases yesterday ($500!) and last night tried again but nada. This morning, got fraud alert all of a sudden. Called in and the rep said the account was closed! I checked the account online and there is no message, no letter, no indication the account is closed. But there is also no mention of an AU, or adding an AU. May wait to call on Monday but this seems unusual. Is Citi cracking down, all of a sudden?
Aug 2, 2014, 1:23 pm
#8389
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW,OVB (Russia)
Programs: AA HH Gold SPG Gold BA
Posts: 1,823
Aug 2, 2014, 1:43 pm
#8390
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Central VA/LYH/ROA
Programs: BA, AA, SPG, HLTN, ETC
Posts: 365
I think Annhedonia was simply saying that even though you got a lot of PMs all asking for the same thing they at least tried to be creative in their asking, making their message entertaining or at least different than the others.
At least that's how I took it.
Anyways...time to go read a few hundred pages to look for some Citi MS method I apparently missed lol.
At least that's how I took it.
Anyways...time to go read a few hundred pages to look for some Citi MS method I apparently missed lol.
Aug 2, 2014, 1:48 pm
#8391
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE, AA EXP MM, UA Gold MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Titanium, HH Dia, IHG Plat
Posts: 4,777
Over 2 Weeks to Make Required Spend Before First Closing Date?
Many here have said that you only get a few days to put required spend on the card before a statement closing date, after which it's tricky to have the AA miles post and then cancel the card.
My closing date is 20 days after card application, and 18 days after I received the card. Has something changed? Eighteen days is plenty of time to get the required spend up.
Do you still have 37 days after application to cancel the card and get the fee refunded?
My closing date is 20 days after card application, and 18 days after I received the card. Has something changed? Eighteen days is plenty of time to get the required spend up.
Do you still have 37 days after application to cancel the card and get the fee refunded?
Aug 2, 2014, 1:53 pm
#8392
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: By the airport
Programs: US Airways Chmn,SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond,Club Carlson Gold,Hyatt Plat,Avis FP,IHG Plat,Marriott Plat
Posts: 36
Anyone had an authorized user shut down? I am the AU on spouse's account. Made purchases yesterday ($500!) and last night tried again but nada. This morning, got fraud alert all of a sudden. Called in and the rep said the account was closed! I checked the account online and there is no message, no letter, no indication the account is closed. But there is also no mention of an AU, or adding an AU. May wait to call on Monday but this seems unusual. Is Citi cracking down, all of a sudden?
Aug 2, 2014, 1:59 pm
#8393
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW,OVB (Russia)
Programs: AA HH Gold SPG Gold BA
Posts: 1,823
Many here have said that you only get a few days to put required spend on the card before a statement closing date, after which it's tricky to have the AA miles post and then cancel the card.
My closing date is 20 days after card application, and 18 days after I received the card. Has something changed? Eighteen days is plenty of time to get the required spend up.
Do you still have 37 days after application to cancel the card and get the fee refunded?
My closing date is 20 days after card application, and 18 days after I received the card. Has something changed? Eighteen days is plenty of time to get the required spend up.
Do you still have 37 days after application to cancel the card and get the fee refunded?
Aug 2, 2014, 2:18 pm
#8394
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Central VA/LYH/ROA
Programs: BA, AA, SPG, HLTN, ETC
Posts: 365
My understanding was this... let's say you are MSing away (either a few days or a lot of days) and your first statement closes. a new statement starts and a few days after that statement starts you get the fee.
I though you had 37 days from that day to cancel. So in that remaining statement time you needed to finish MSing and get balance to 0 except for the Annual fee, let statement close, miles post a day or two later to AA, and then you should still have a few days to cancel before your 37 days are up.
The only problem I thought was for some people those 37 days was starting less than a week after getting the card bc the first statement was cut short.
So regardless of when that first statement comes you should still have 37 days from when the fee posts to finishs MSing and get that balance to 0 for those miles to post by the end of that "second" statement.
Is this accurate?
The whole issue is a little confusing to me because I got my Card on July 19th and it shows my next statement closing on Aug 19th. I've seen no statement in between and no annual fee. So am I getting a true full month? I assume I am still in the first month bc I still can't make payments online and have to use Billpay and phone to pay balance down...and I have yet to see any annual fee.
Last edited by air360; Aug 2, 2014 at 2:23 pm
Aug 2, 2014, 2:24 pm
#8395
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,269
Many here have said that you only get a few days to put required spend on the card before a statement closing date, after which it's tricky to have the AA miles post and then cancel the card.
Do you still have 37 days after application to cancel the card and get the fee refunded?
Do you still have 37 days after application to cancel the card and get the fee refunded?
Aug 2, 2014, 2:26 pm
#8396
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,269
Just a guess -- it might be paying your bill via debit card over the phone. That seemed a bit YMMV in the past. I could see Citi nixing that for cards with smaller annual fees.
Aug 2, 2014, 2:40 pm
#8397
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: SFO
Posts: 175
I'm convinced this is going away for good pretty soon or changed to one reward per lifetime ala AmX. Too many days for my 65 days but there shouldn't be any problem for SO who got Pat on 7/8, Exec on 7/22--both still open- to apply for another Exec-- is there?
Aug 2, 2014, 2:44 pm
#8398
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,273
ONE right now. Spouse's second card. Lots of daily spending, no rush on this one. 2nd cycle closes on the 11th. Thus was the 2nd card of two opened within 10 days of each other on the 8/65 day rule. No other citi cards for spouse.
Aug 2, 2014, 3:48 pm
#8399
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 571
Why are you putting off calling Citi until Monday? Wanting to keep us in suspense?
Aug 2, 2014, 5:06 pm
#8400
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: AA, SPG, MR, UR, Cash Back!
Posts: 606
I was wondering if someone could help me keep track of the proper days. I just applied for the 75k AA card. I forgot I had a security freeze on EX. I lifted it after applying. I plan to call the recon line on Monday.
Would my apply day still be today or should I count my apply date as Monday?
Would my apply day still be today or should I count my apply date as Monday?