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Originally Posted by Scifience
(Post 17944058)
In my experience, I've never had any problems filling and handing on only the arrival portion of the card, though this has always been with an actual visa. Indeed, at many land crossings, departure cards aren't even available upon arrival. It's only one data point, but I'd say it's probably only necessary to worry about keeping a departure card safe if you're on TWOV.
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Filling out a paper card is stone age.
Where's the mobile app for the card to produce a qr code to scan from the phone. Set up express lane for that. |
Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 17816211)
And bonus: we lucky USA passport holders get to do Mongolia border runs to re-activate another entry without need for Mongo visa! Let the Good Times Roll!.... One hasn't lived until they've done the border crossing visa run, stuffed in a jeep on top of millet sacks heading from Erlian to Zamyn Uud, with legs sticking out the window and 4 other people inside in similarly contorted positions. :p
IIRC, he flew to Erlian from NAY in the morning, took a taxi to the border, crossed it (easy), and had to pack himself in the back of a truck with farm animals and wait for 3 hours in order to return to China. At that point, his choices were to: 1) share a taxi with 3 other people back to BJ; or 2) spend the night in a crappy hotel, and fly out the next morning (there are no afternoon/evening flights). He opted for the latter. His primary goal was to save money, but I'm pretty sure that a quick turn in Korea would have cost him less. My question is: what's the point? I pose this question now because I need to reset my visa during the course of the next 8 days, and have been contemplating the Mongolia option, due to shear curiosity (i.e. how bad could it possibly be?). Option B is HK, which wouldn't cost me (personally) a dime because I have some business to attend to down there within the course of the next 30 days (i.e. I can do that trip anytime). |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 17944109)
I rarely fill out departure cards in flight unless I'm exceptionally bored because it's a foregone conclusion that I will lose them before my next exit.
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
(Post 17938736)
2nd, upon arrival at SHA, we thought no arrival card needed for TWOV.
So now my worry is: I have an entry stamp in my passport, no China visa, and no exit stamp. Will it present a problem next time doing TWOV for 48h in Shanghai? I suspect your adventure is mostly down to the fact that you're doing it at SHA, which sees a lot less A-B-C international transfer passengers than PVG, as the only international destinations there are Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 17944109)
I rarely fill out departure cards in flight unless I'm exceptionally bored because it's a foregone conclusion that I will lose them before my next exit.
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 17945444)
Would you mind starting a thread about this, jiejie? A friend of mine did this drill last summer, wrote a trip report at my behest (I read it; it sounded like a miserable experience), but never got around to putting it online.
IIRC, he flew to Erlian from NAY in the morning, took a taxi to the border, crossed it (easy), and had to pack himself in the back of a truck with farm animals and wait for 3 hours in order to return to China. At that point, his choices were to: 1) share a taxi with 3 other people back to BJ; or 2) spend the night in a crappy hotel, and fly out the next morning (there are no afternoon/evening flights). He opted for the latter. His primary goal was to save money, but I'm pretty sure that a quick turn in Korea would have cost him less. My question is: what's the point? I pose this question now because I need to reset my visa during the course of the next 8 days, and have been contemplating the Mongolia option, due to shear curiosity (i.e. how bad could it possibly be?). Option B is HK, which wouldn't cost me (personally) a dime because I have some business to attend to down there within the course of the next 30 days (i.e. I can do that trip anytime). 1) There are more transport options than you identify. 2) There are no flights to Erlian from NAY and in 2011 that was also the case. Only one daily flight in the morning from PEK T1, goes up and back on Capital Airlines (formerly Deer). 3) The Mongolian border run is absolutely cheaper than a turn to Korea and definitely for a US passport holder. THAT's the point. You can do the border run, round-trip, for under USD$100 and 24 hours door to door from your Beijing home. While a round-trip flight to Korea could be done faster, it certainly would cost a LOT more if paying out of pocket, or if using miles and having to pay air ticket taxes and fees. And who wants to fly to Korea just to turn around and fly right back, without at least spending a couple of days in Seoul or something? ETA: While I'll provide the PbP, I recommend that you not use this option at this time of year due to the cold up there. If you have to go to HK anyway and won't be out of pocket for that trip, do that if you can schedule it in time. Save the Mongo border run experience for April-September. |
Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 17948614)
2) There are no flights to Erlian from NAY and in 2011 that was also the case. Only one daily flight in the morning from PEK T1, goes up and back on Capital Airlines (formerly Deer).
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 17948872)
I helped him buy his plane ticket, and I'm 99.9% sure there was a flight from NAY (on KN, of course) on the schedule at the time of his trip, even though he ended up flying from PEK in the end (cheaper).
At any rate, we should take this discussion elsewhere, on the border run thread which I'll start soon and do the originating post. We are getting off track on this thread, which is for Chinese visa discussion. Thanks. |
Quick question -- I was reading some of the earlier posts and just want to make sure for 2012 in case anything has changed. Once I apply and get my visa, will be a tourist visa, how far in advance get I get my visa? I will be traveling in July... I guess I am confused how long is it good for. Does it matter which length/type visa I get?
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Originally Posted by xp0
(Post 18042312)
Quick question -- I was reading some of the earlier posts and just want to make sure for 2012 in case anything has changed. Once I apply and get my visa, will be a tourist visa, how far in advance get I get my visa? I will be traveling in July... I guess I am confused how long is it good for. Does it matter which length/type visa I get?
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
(Post 17945943)
I just wish that MU would actually bother to hand the arrival/departure card (or at least the arrival one) on flight. In that flight they didn't give anything, so everyone was rushing to the little desk to get and fill their cards... we thought (mistakenly thought had read so somewhere) that don't need it for transit, so just went on ahead.
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Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
(Post 18042626)
I did a transit without visa yesterday in PEK. No need for a departure/arrival card at all (I had completed it but didn't use it- will use it tomorrow). It was very straightforward and took about 25 minutes from the time I was off the plane to the time I was in the Air China lounge.
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Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 18046196)
Just for other readers: this experience may not be constant at PEK or at transits through other Chinese airports. Within the last 3 weeks, I've had reports from PEK and 1-2 other airports from intl transit passengers that were told filling out the card was not required, only to get to the immigration desk and have one demanded of them. This may depend on which officer is manning the desk, and it may be more likely at an incoming terminal that does not have dedicated desks for international transit passengers. My advice for those transiting is to take a card when passed out on the arriving flight, fill it in with purpose as "transit" in the box-check area, and address in China as "international transit only" and not filling in a visa number (especially if you have a single-entry that you are saving for a later visit). Then if you are asked for it, you have it and if not, nothing lost except 2 minutes of your time on the plane.
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Originally Posted by Scifience
(Post 18042410)
This post in the sticky thread is up to date and has the answers to all of your questions. :)
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Originally Posted by Scifience
(Post 18042410)
This post in the sticky thread is up to date and has the answers to all of your questions. :)
Ahhh yes, thanks for that! Sorry for not looking there first :) Great informaton |
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