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HGHUA Jan 30, 2015 7:58 am

I don't think US citizens can get the shenzhen visa.

JPDM Jan 30, 2015 8:19 am

You do not need to leave from the same place where you entered. You just need to leave from Shenzhen.

seattle29 Jan 30, 2015 8:23 am


Originally Posted by HGHUA (Post 24261948)
I don't think US citizens can get the shenzhen visa.

I'll be travelling on my British passport, so I'm eligible for the shenzhen visa :)

southsoccer Feb 5, 2015 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by TravelPhotographer (Post 23821770)
Will this new tourist visa
for US citizens be free?
Same price as old 1-yr visa?
Other? Thanks in advance!

The cost of a ten year multiple entry China visa is the same as the old one year Chinese visa.

southsoccer Feb 5, 2015 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by fly2nrt (Post 24135997)
I asked for and received a 10 year multiple entry (up to 60 days) L visa from the Chinese Consulate in New York. No previous visas into China. Was very surprised but am pretty happy I don't have to deal with it for a while. ^

Almost all US Citizens will receive a 10 Year Multiple Entry Chinese visa.

31570324 Feb 6, 2015 12:34 am


Originally Posted by southsoccer (Post 24298505)
Almost all US Citizens will receive a 10 Year Multiple Entry Chinese visa.

Sadly US Citizens seems to be the only onces who can get such a long chinese visa.

happywanderer Feb 6, 2015 6:00 am

24 hour transit without visa from PVG to cruise port
 
Will this meet the 24 hour transit without visa in Shanghai?

SFO/PVG arrival 5:35 p.m. April 25
Depart cruiseship 5 p.m. April 26 (first port of call South Korea)

If so, and I believe it does, what is the probability of running into an airline gate agent in SFO, or immigration officer at PVG, or a cruise agent at the cruise terminal who is unaware of this fairly new provision and denies entry or boarding?

Thanks for any input.

moondog Feb 6, 2015 6:30 am


Originally Posted by happywanderer (Post 24301656)
Will this meet the 24 hour transit without visa in Shanghai?

SFO/PVG arrival 5:35 p.m. April 25
Depart cruiseship 5 p.m. April 26 (first port of call South Korea)

If so, and I believe it does, what is the probability of running into an airline gate agent in SFO, or immigration officer at PVG, or a cruise agent at the cruise terminal who is unaware of this fairly new provision and denies entry or boarding?

Thanks for any input.

I'm going to recommend to the moderators that we close this thread because we have two more active threads on China visas and twov.

But, the cruise ship thing has very few data points in support of it.

JPDM Feb 6, 2015 6:31 am


Originally Posted by happywanderer (Post 24301656)
Will this meet the 24 hour transit without visa in Shanghai?

SFO/PVG arrival 5:35 p.m. April 25
Depart cruiseship 5 p.m. April 26 (first port of call South Korea)

If so, and I believe it does, what is the probability of running into an airline gate agent in SFO, or immigration officer at PVG, or a cruise agent at the cruise terminal who is unaware of this fairly new provision and denies entry or boarding?

Thanks for any input.

What new provision? Taking a cruise does not qualify as a transit.

moondog Feb 6, 2015 6:43 am


Originally Posted by JPDM (Post 24301779)
What new provision? Taking a cruise does not qualify as a transit.

I remember that both you and I read/commented on the articles that claim the opposite. And, while both of us were suspicious, we didn't have the fire power to categorically dismiss them. That having been said, there's no way I would encourage an ft member to test those waters.

889 Feb 6, 2015 9:08 am

Given that Shanghai Immigration itself says ship-air transit is OK under the 24-hour exemption, it's hard to be dogmatic that it is not permitted.

http://www.sh-immigration.gov.cn/lis...?lx=37&id=2943

But yes, the poster would be something of a guinea pig. And being a guinea pig has its risks. Further, China does sometimes announce a new policy with a splash then backtrack on it without publicity. But on paper, the poster can do the transit.

Note that this transit is not permitted under the 72-hour exemption.

If the poster does want to do this, I'd suggest contacting Shanghai Immigration beforehand for confirmation of the application procedure.

Somebody always has to be the brave one to go first.

JPDM Feb 6, 2015 12:13 pm

Right, the conclusion here before was that it is possible to find some reference to it online, we have never heard of someone who tried it. So maybe this poster can try and report back.
The problem is that nobody seems to know about this rule if it really exists so that the cruise company or the airlines will not let you board without a visa.

happywanderer Feb 6, 2015 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by JPDM (Post 24303725)
Right, the conclusion here before was that it is possible to find some reference to it online, we have never heard of someone who tried it. So maybe this poster can try and report back.
The problem is that nobody seems to know about this rule if it really exists so that the cruise company or the airlines will not let you board without a visa.

As the possible guinea pig, here is what I have gleaned from various sources:

From the Chinese embassy in D.C.: I specifically asked about the 24-hour transit without visa and this is their response:

Please read the following link on 72 hour transit visa exemption for foreign nationals and determine for yourself if you qualify for that, you may also double check with your airline.
Link: http://www.china-embassy.org/chn/qzfw/zytz/t1055029.htm

I recontacted the embassy for further information and my request has been ignored since they did not address the 24-hour TWOV.

From an internet blog:

According to Article 22 of the Exit and Entry Administration Law of the People’s Republic of China: Under the circumstances that passengers hold connecting flight, ship or train tickets and are in transit to a third country or region by an international aircraft, ship or train via China and will stay for no more than 24 hours in China without leaving the port of entry or stay in specific zones approved by the State Council within the prescribed time limit, foreigners may be exempted from applying for visas. The new law expands the range of the means of transportation taken by the 24-hour visa-free transit passengers from the former “the international aircraft” to the current "international aircraft, ship or train". It provides the legal basis for foreigners travelling by cruise to go through temporary entry procedures to disembark without holding Chinese visas. Therefore, it's unnecessary for aliens on board cruise ships to worry about not being allowed to enter China without holding Chinese visas. Aliens who meet all the requirements of the related articles can transit without visas after submitting the applications

Contacted via e-mail the Chief of Shanghai General Station of Immigration Station and am awaiting a reply

So here I am 10 weeks away from departure with no clear answer. I do not have a visa but you can bet your paycheck that I will get one rather than risk losing two business class tickets to Shanghai, $7,000 cruise tickets, plus the possibility of having to purchase return tickets home because I can't get out of PVG.

It just irks me to have to go through the visa application process and pay the fees just to transit from the airport to the cruise ship.

Stay tuned. Thanks to everyone for their input.

Shimon Feb 7, 2015 8:27 am

Or you could buy tickets to HKG and cancel them once you arrive to Shanghai.

JPDM Feb 7, 2015 12:44 pm

Here is a source probably more reliable than that travel blog: http://www.sh-immigration.gov.cn/lis...?lx=37&id=2943
Problem is, the airline will not let you board the plane as they are not aware of this.


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