tauphi

From China's perspective, the permit is meant to be used for travel in both directions, from and to Taiwan. This is similar to how a Hong Kong/Macau Travel Permit is meant to be used in both directions, but of course there the enforcement is a lot laxer, and even if you do get turned back it's usually just a land border.

gudugan

Adding a data point confirming that this works.
In step 3, did not have 港澳通行證, so needed a flight out of HKG within 7 days.
In step 4, flying HKG-TPE direct with the intention of entering TPE (not transit) had no issues. Used 入台證 with PRC passport to enter. Did not have 大通證.

YariGuy

I've seen instances (on Youtube, so take with a grain of salt) that Chinese citizens entering China from Taiwan with just their PRC passport will get a lecture from immigration. They'll still be let in, but will get lectured about China's geopolitical stance, etc.

Palal

How was he able to obtain the 入台證? Family?

gudugan

No family just tourist. The person is living in the USA and you can apply online

percysmith

That’s another bunch of unnecessary transit pax, on top of the Wannabe Eileen brigade https://www.reddit.com/r/PassportPorn/s/XpfgSOcDDt

boat stuck

It's pretty easy to be a Wannabe Eileen these days.

Be born in the US to at least 1 Chinese citizen parent who does NOT have a green card (so in the US on a visitor's visa or work visa) at the time of your birth. You'll get a US birth certificate, a US passport, and a Chinese Travel Document (which is proof of Chinese citizenship) that can use used to enter China and get hukou and live/work in China indefinitely. It used to be that you can't get the Chinese Travel Document renewed after age 18, but recently Chinese consulates have started renewing the Chinese Travel Document regardless of the age of the applicant. So if you're born in the right circumstance, you can get and keep dual US/Chinese citizenship for life.

The one caveat is that if you live in China long-term, you'll have to leave China every 2 years to renew the Chinese Travel Document, which can only be issued by a Chinese consulate overseas. Not sure if Hong Kong works for that purpose. Still, way easier than any other option.

percysmith

By Eileen/Wannabe Eileen I was contemplating naturalisation, not nationality conflict.

Quite hard to undo one’s parentage and get another pair that’ll generate a nationality conflict to have you again.

boat stuck

Pretty sure the above is how Eileen got her dual citizenship actually. Her Chinese citizen mom was in the US on a temporary visa and had her through artificial insemination.

The exception with Eileen was that the consulate kept renewing her Chinese Travel Document past her 18th birthday, whereas most other people were forced to choose between getting a Chinese passport/losing their US passport, or keeping their US passport and having to get a Chinese visa. But like I said, Chinese consulates are now renewing Chinese Travel Documents for everyone past their 18th birthday, so being a Wannabe Eileen is pretty easy assuming that you were eligible for a Chinese Travel Document at birth.

percysmith

Eileen’s mum avoided Green Card for 10+ years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_..._and_education ?

I prefer to think she got a one-person Explanation. I am a dual national by virtue of the 1996 Explanation, https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/resident...inese/law.html , I don’t see why it is impossible in law for Eileen to be naturalised under one. Just that, hers isn’t going to be found in any URL link.

boat stuck

The parent(s) just have to not have a green card at the time of the birth of the child. The parents can get a green card or even naturalize later without affecting the child's dual-citizenship status.

I know multiple Chinese couples in the US who specifically planned to have their kids while they're still on H1B work visas, and got green cards after they had all the kids.

tauphi

You do not have to leave China every 2 years. You can continue to live in China even after the CTD expires (just as any Chinese national can continue to live in China when their passport expires). In order to leave China with an expired CTD, you apply for an Entry-Exit Permit valid for 3 months in lieu of the CTD. The Entry-Exit Permit will be treated as a CTD when you use it to apply for a new CTD abroad. Of course if you only ever travel abroad for trips less than 3 months, then you don't even have to renew the CTD.

gudugan

There are many many many Chinese people in the USA who have been working on H1B for 10+ years without a green card. The processing time is very long for Chinese citizens and factors like switching jobs frequently delay the process.

UnitedEF

Ok so I've been trying to follow this thread. Trying to book my wife with PRC passport with greencard back to china. LAX-TPE-PVG. That's ok right? Just return has to be PVG-LAX no transitting TPE but say PVG-HKG-LAX or PVG-HKG-TPE-LAX is ok?

gudugan

LAX-TPE-PVG is fine. You need a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_%...mit_for_Taiwan to leave the airport, but this is easy to apply for if you live in the USA. If you don't have this permit, you can transit no problem, just don't leave the airport.
PVG-LAX is fine
PVG-HKG-LAX is fine, you can stop over in Hong Kong for 7 days. Assuming you don't have this permit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit-E...Kong_and_Macau
PVG-HKG-TPE-LAX is tricky. Technically if you stop over in HKG you are supposed to fly to a "third country" and China wouldn't count TPE as a "third country". Not really sure. You need the first mentioned permit to leave the TPE airport and purely flying HKG-TPE is fine.