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Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 32396958)
I think a reasonable compromise to allow US flights would be to eliminate all tariffs.:tu:
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 32396989)
Is the current administration genuinely interested in restarting China flights? It could make all travellers to/from China and US fly indirectly for the foreseeable future.
March 2 U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 32396989)
Is the current administration genuinely interested in restarting China flights? It could make all travellers to/from China and US fly indirectly for the foreseeable future.
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Originally Posted by givionte
(Post 32397165)
The US never stopped China flights. This was all on the Chinese government. There are hundreds of thousands of Chinese living in the US who can't get home, and it is insanely expensive and difficult for Americans abroad to return home with the current Chinese restrictions. Borders wouldn't be opening back up, it would just relieve the price pressure and allow Chinese and US nationals to return home. Delta and United see an opportunity to earn money with daily flights, so it's a win-win for everyone, and keeps the current border bans.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 32342812)
An RP is effectively the same as a visa in this respect. My agent tells me that they are not more difficult to renew now than prior to March 28. While it's possible that he's fibbing, I doubt it because he doesn't get paid until he delivers.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though. |
Originally Posted by LOUDNOISES
(Post 32397202)
They are now processing RP renewals in about seven days rather than the three weeks it used to.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though. |
Originally Posted by LOUDNOISES
(Post 32397202)
They are now processing RP renewals in about seven days rather than the three weeks it used to.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though. |
Originally Posted by givionte
(Post 32397165)
Delta and United see an opportunity to earn money with daily flights, so it's a win-win for everyone, and keeps the current border bans.
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Originally Posted by givionte
(Post 32397165)
There are hundreds of thousands of Chinese living in the US who can't get home
Freight to US. No empty flights. |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 32396309)
Is this for repatriation and or cargo surely not for tourism?
Originally Posted by gokeeper
(Post 32396869)
Current five-one north america flights, 4 weekly between US and China, 6 weekly between Canada and China.
MU: JFK-PVG / YYZ-PVG CA: LAX-PEK / YVR-PEK CZ: LAX-CAN / YVR-CAN MF: LAX-XMN / YVR-XMN HU: YYZ-PEK 3U: YVR-CTU Anyone with a Europe list? It looks like CZ does CAN-CDG, CAN-LHR and CAN-AMS. |
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Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 32397890)
Air freight costs will drop...cost of consumer goods will drop..US business profits will go up..there is zero downside. |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 32398092)
No problem..end tariffs.
Air freight costs will drop...cost of consumer goods will drop..US business profits will go up..there is zero downside. 1. Chinese citizens not allowed to purchase real estate in the US, until US citizens are allowed to purchase real estate in China. 2. US should block Baidu, WeChat, and other Chinese internet services, until China unblocks Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. US media shall be allowed to report freely inside China if Chinese media is allowed to report freely inside the US. 3. China should require US citizens to do an in-person interview to get visas, until the US drops the requirement for Chinese citizens. 4. All "Confucius Institutes" in the US universities to be disbanded, unless the US is allowed to have "George Washington Institutes" in Chinese universities. ...and the ones relevant to this thread: 5. All Chinese citizens banned from entering the US (regardless of origin/location during the past 14 days), until China rescinds its ban on all US citizens entering China. Banning US citizens coming directly from the US due to COVID-19 fears I can understand. Banning US citizens coming directly from Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. however makes no sense (and yes, I'm aware that these restrictions by the US should also be extended against Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, etc.). Requiring a 14 day quarantine at the traveler's expense? Sure...and that would probably cut down on passenger traffic by 99%. Total ban? That's just dumb. 6. I'm seeing reports that if US citizens who hold Chinese RPs leave China, they lose their RP. Okay, fine, if that is true, then Chinese citizens with US Green Cards who leave the US should lose their Green Cards. An eye for an eye. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 32396889)
I know you’re more optimistic than I am about this stuff but I think you’d be handing DL 4000 rambos in exchange for a future travel credit.
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Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 32397890)
Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 32398172)
I agree that there's almost zero downside to ending tariffs, so long as the other side drops its tariffs, but there are other reciprocity items that I would put in place, such as:
1. Chinese citizens not allowed to purchase real estate in the US, until US citizens are allowed to purchase real estate in China. Absolutely...and US buyers get to own the land. 2. US should block Baidu, WeChat, and other Chinese internet services, until China unblocks Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. US media shall be allowed to report freely inside China if Chinese media is allowed to report freely inside the US. Of course! 3. China should require US citizens to do an in-person interview to get visas, until the US drops the requirement for Chinese citizens. Yes..in per interviews for a country with such wealth and no history of terrorist acts on other nations. 4. All "Confucius Institutes" in the US universities to be disbanded, unless the US is allowed to have "George Washington Institutes" in Chinese universities. Have no knowledge on that. ...and the one relevant to this thread: 5. All Chinese citizens banned from entering the US (regardless of origin/location during the past 14 days), until China rescinds its ban on all US citizens entering China. Banning US citizens coming directly from the US due to COVID-19 fears I can understand. Banning US citizens coming directly from Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. however makes no sense (and yes, I'm aware that these restrictions by the US should also be extended against Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, etc.). Requiring a 14 day quarantine at the traveler's expense? Sure...and that would probably cut down on passenger traffic by 99%. Total ban? That's just dumb. Yes US never banned chinese (as in china citizens) never banned China flights. An eye for an eye. |
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