PEK layover - CN lounge/TWOV questions
#1
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PEK layover - CN lounge/TWOV questions
Flying from LAX-PEK-SGN with a 15 hour layover in Beijing. First time to China.
Some questions for the forum:
1. Is the 24 hour TWOV good for this itinerary with a US passport?
2. Is it possible to take a shower in the CA business class lounge after arrival and then get a TWOV visa and go into town?
3. Flight to SGN departs at 835p on Thu May 9. How much in advance of departure should I arrive at the airport? If leaving from Tiananmen Square area, what time should I leave if traveling by car? Don't want to miss that flight!
4. Do ATMs in China work with US banks? What about US credit cards - are credit cards as widely accepted as in the US?
TIA!
Some questions for the forum:
1. Is the 24 hour TWOV good for this itinerary with a US passport?
2. Is it possible to take a shower in the CA business class lounge after arrival and then get a TWOV visa and go into town?
3. Flight to SGN departs at 835p on Thu May 9. How much in advance of departure should I arrive at the airport? If leaving from Tiananmen Square area, what time should I leave if traveling by car? Don't want to miss that flight!
4. Do ATMs in China work with US banks? What about US credit cards - are credit cards as widely accepted as in the US?
TIA!
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Flying from LAX-PEK-SGN with a 15 hour layover in Beijing. First time to China.
Some questions for the forum:
1. Is the 24 hour TWOV good for this itinerary with a US passport?
2. Is it possible to take a shower in the CA business class lounge after arrival and then get a TWOV visa and go into town?
3. Flight to SGN departs at 835p on Thu May 9. How much in advance of departure should I arrive at the airport? If leaving from Tiananmen Square area, what time should I leave if traveling by car? Don't want to miss that flight!
4. Do ATMs in China work with US banks? What about US credit cards - are credit cards as widely accepted as in the US?
TIA!
Some questions for the forum:
1. Is the 24 hour TWOV good for this itinerary with a US passport?
2. Is it possible to take a shower in the CA business class lounge after arrival and then get a TWOV visa and go into town?
3. Flight to SGN departs at 835p on Thu May 9. How much in advance of departure should I arrive at the airport? If leaving from Tiananmen Square area, what time should I leave if traveling by car? Don't want to miss that flight!
4. Do ATMs in China work with US banks? What about US credit cards - are credit cards as widely accepted as in the US?
TIA!
2. Your goal should be to leave the airport; if you pull this off, you can shower somewhere nicer
3. I'll suggest 530p; Beijing traffic is pretty bad, but an hour should be sufficient to get there (i.e. tell the driver to take 5th Ring, if needed)
4. ATMs work fine, for the most part. Credit cards are accepted at many higher end places, but I do run into issues at times (e.g. some restaurants seem to be okay with Visa, and not MC)
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I don't think that you can access the lounge from the arrival area. However once you exit to the main hall after passing customs, turn right and at the far end you have shower facilities ($).
I am not what you mean by the Tian'Anmen square are but understand that you won't get a taxi around the square as cars can't stop there. I also think that at that time of day. getting a taxi will be nearly impossible. Consider the subway and Airport Express.
I am not what you mean by the Tian'Anmen square are but understand that you won't get a taxi around the square as cars can't stop there. I also think that at that time of day. getting a taxi will be nearly impossible. Consider the subway and Airport Express.
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I'd strongly recommend finding an ATM that works with Visa/MC (which should be easy) and taking out as much cash as you want to spend that day. Foreign cards are usually ok in hotels and shopping centres, but as noted above, you can't really rely on it beyond that. It's completely different from Europe where I wouldn't usually carry cash at all. So if you want the flexibility to explore (which you should if it's your first time in Beijing!), take out a handful of cash so you can relax.
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1. Yes, but be sure to book a hotel in order to increase your odds of being let out
2. Your goal should be to leave the airport; if you pull this off, you can shower somewhere nicer
3. I'll suggest 530p; Beijing traffic is pretty bad, but an hour should be sufficient to get there (i.e. tell the driver to take 5th Ring, if needed)
4. ATMs work fine, for the most part. Credit cards are accepted at many higher end places, but I do run into issues at times (e.g. some restaurants seem to be okay with Visa, and not MC)
2. Your goal should be to leave the airport; if you pull this off, you can shower somewhere nicer
3. I'll suggest 530p; Beijing traffic is pretty bad, but an hour should be sufficient to get there (i.e. tell the driver to take 5th Ring, if needed)
4. ATMs work fine, for the most part. Credit cards are accepted at many higher end places, but I do run into issues at times (e.g. some restaurants seem to be okay with Visa, and not MC)
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Following are my thoughts about how to increase your odds, in order of success chances:
1. CA books a hotel for you
2. You book a hotel on your own
3. You book an official tour
#8
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You can certainly transit without a visa but in principle you can't leave the airport for a transit under 24 hours. However you can apply for an entry permit which can be issued at the discretion of the immigration officer. A longer stay (10 hours +) and a hotel booking usually sufficient to convince them.
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By the way, there is no way to use the lounge for a shower upon arrival. Even for domestic China travel, the airport is designed to funnel you straight to landside if you no longer have any business being in the sterile zone.
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True, but in the unlikely event they don't let the OP leave the terminal (really push for this @OP; a shower does not justify hanging out there for more than 2 hours!), then he/she will end up on the departures level anyway.
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Arrived in PEK this morning. Had no issues with the TWOV, issued without any questions and didnt even have to show my visa for Vietnam. The agent did flip through all my passport pages, fortunately I dont have too many stamps in this one.
When going thru baggage claim there are signs for the Air China premium lounge. In the far right corner of baggage claim, theres a lounge that is basically only private showers/toilets, and very nice ones at that. See pictures. The shot in the shower room is a panorama btw. They also have basic beverages and a small sitting area. Very pleasant surprise. No waiting at 630am, there was only one other person, I saw exiting as I arrived. After a day of siteseeing I also wanted a shower before flying. Turns out the showers in the Air China business lounge are no longer in operation. There are now showers on the 1st floor - take an elevator down from within the lounge, so still within the sterile zone. These arent quite as nice as the arrivals, but spacious and well appointed. Sorry, no pic taken. They also have a private toilet as well. The food in the lounge is still terrible, however.
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Arrived in PEK this morning. Had no issues with the TWOV, issued without any questions and didnt even have to show my visa for Vietnam. The agent did flip through all my passport pages, fortunately I dont have too many stamps in this one.
When going thru baggage claim there are signs for the Air China premium lounge. In the far right corner of baggage claim, theres a lounge that is basically only private showers/toilets, and very nice ones at that. See pictures. The shot in the shower room is a panorama btw. They also have basic beverages and a small sitting area. Very pleasant surprise. No waiting at 630am, there was only one other person, I saw exiting as I arrived.
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Glad to hear CA actually done something useful (the regular departure CA lounge in PEK really isn't great, neither the int nor the domestic part (I even prefer the domestic one!) - albeit they showed in PVG that they're totally able to build a reasonable lounge)
#14
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Arrived in PEK this morning. Had no issues with the TWOV, issued without any questions and didnt even have to show my visa for Vietnam. The agent did flip through all my passport pages, fortunately I dont have too many stamps in this one.
When going thru baggage claim there are signs for the Air China premium lounge. In the far right corner of baggage claim, theres a lounge that is basically only private showers/toilets, and very nice ones at that. See pictures. The shot in the shower room is a panorama btw. They also have basic beverages and a small sitting area. Very pleasant surprise. No waiting at 630am, there was only one other person, I saw exiting as I arrived. After a day of siteseeing I also wanted a shower before flying. Turns out the showers in the Air China business lounge are no longer in operation. There are now showers on the 1st floor - take an elevator down from within the lounge, so still within the sterile zone. These arent quite as nice as the arrivals, but spacious and well appointed. Sorry, no pic taken. They also have a private toilet as well. The food in the lounge is still terrible, however.
Panoramic shot.
Lounge entrance is on the right, next to lost baggage counter.