VPNs in China
Jan 23, 2017 | 9:38 pm
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VPNs in China
Have read multiple stories that China is beginning to crack down on VPNs. Wondering whether this crackdown has affected any posters here. I try to visit Wuhan with my children every summer, and their visit would be made much more difficult with VPNs and a chance to watch American programs.
Jan 23, 2017 | 10:57 pm
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Have read multiple stories that China is beginning to crack down on VPNs. Wondering whether this crackdown has affected any posters here. I try to visit Wuhan with my children every summer, and their visit would be made much more difficult with VPNs and a chance to watch American programs.
Jan 23, 2017 | 11:01 pm
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Can you PM me the "reliable" ones? I need to guarantee my VPN internet when I'm in China. I've used a few paid services in the past that got shut down...
Jan 24, 2017 | 4:24 am
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Use one that offers non-standard ports. I've had good success with those.
Also tunneling through a http proxy worked well but not all VPN clients allow that.
Using a private/company VPN that has endpoints not listed on the open internet seems to work much better than using a large commercial service.
Also tunneling through a http proxy worked well but not all VPN clients allow that.
Using a private/company VPN that has endpoints not listed on the open internet seems to work much better than using a large commercial service.
Jan 24, 2017 | 6:49 am
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There is currently a new push to shut them down: http://www.scmp.com/news/china/polic...great-firewall
"... I need to guarantee my VPN internet when I'm in China..." - you really can't guarantee this.
"... I need to guarantee my VPN internet when I'm in China..." - you really can't guarantee this.
Jan 24, 2017 | 9:27 am
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If you only care about getting access to Facebook and Gmail and aren't particularly worried about avoiding Chinese government surveillance, use one of the government-licensed providers like FFVPN (https://www.fanjsq.net/).
Jan 24, 2017 | 4:55 pm
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If you only care about getting access to Facebook and Gmail and aren't particularly worried about avoiding Chinese government surveillance, use one of the government-licensed providers like FFVPN (https://www.fanjsq.net/).
Trying to set that up, though! I see no English option on the website and my wife is very non-technical.
Jan 24, 2017 | 9:53 pm
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From article comments:
"Yup, fake news is right!
Here is the original: http://www.miit.gov.cn/n1146290/n438...6/content.html
It says fixed line VPN service (like what China Telecom sells) can only be sold by approved parties. Probably just to help guarantee their monopoly.
Nothing about consumer VPN services is mentioned in the regulations. Nothing about such VPN companies, and nothing about people in China who use their services. This is a regulation about fixed line telco services, which the VPN providers used by your average expat in China do NOT sell!
This story is false, misleading and irresponsible to your readers. It's a shame other news outlets are picking up a fake news story like this!"
"Yup, fake news is right!
Here is the original: http://www.miit.gov.cn/n1146290/n438...6/content.html
It says fixed line VPN service (like what China Telecom sells) can only be sold by approved parties. Probably just to help guarantee their monopoly.
Nothing about consumer VPN services is mentioned in the regulations. Nothing about such VPN companies, and nothing about people in China who use their services. This is a regulation about fixed line telco services, which the VPN providers used by your average expat in China do NOT sell!
This story is false, misleading and irresponsible to your readers. It's a shame other news outlets are picking up a fake news story like this!"
Jan 25, 2017 | 7:53 am
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This is completely irresponsible and inaccurate reporting by the mainstream media. Check my blog post on this subject for more information.
https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/p...l-not-illegal/
https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/p...l-not-illegal/
Jan 25, 2017 | 7:56 am
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https://www.tipsforchina.com/vpn-in-...2017-blog.html
Jan 25, 2017 | 8:29 am
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This is completely irresponsible and inaccurate reporting by the mainstream media. Check my blog post on this subject for more information.
https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/p...l-not-illegal/
https://www.tipsforchina.com/blogs/p...l-not-illegal/
You are now *the* China VPN expert in my mind. (Moondog, you are still the all-around expert)
One counter-intuitive question for you -- are there China VPN servers? Meaning I like to use qq music etc. but they don't work outside of China. Are there ways to access these when outside of China?
Jan 25, 2017 | 10:12 am
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Great website! Can't believe today's the first I've seen it.
You are now *the* China VPN expert in my mind. (Moondog, you are still the all-around expert)
One counter-intuitive question for you -- are there China VPN servers? Meaning I like to use qq music etc. but they don't work outside of China. Are there ways to access these when outside of China?
You are now *the* China VPN expert in my mind. (Moondog, you are still the all-around expert)
One counter-intuitive question for you -- are there China VPN servers? Meaning I like to use qq music etc. but they don't work outside of China. Are there ways to access these when outside of China?
Jan 25, 2017 | 12:42 pm
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For current information on VPN performance in China, check this page.
https://www.tipsforchina.com/vpn-in-...2017-blog.html
https://www.tipsforchina.com/vpn-in-...2017-blog.html
Jan 25, 2017 | 8:13 pm
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Thanks Jiajun and other posters. In addition to being concerned about the availability of vpns, I was afraid that if I used one while visiting China I could get my Chinese relatives in trouble. Looks like that is not an issue. Thanks again.